[gentoo-user] 2021-08-24-eudev-retirement

[gentoo-user] 2021-08-24-eudev-retirement

[thelma]

I have "eudev" installed but I think it will be obsolete as of Jan.1/22 according to news: 2021-08-24-eudev-retirement

Does converting from: sys-fs/eudev
to: sys-fs/udev

is as simple as: emerge -C sys-fs/eudev
emerge sys-fs/udev

Re: [gentoo-user] 2021-08-24-eudev-retirement

[Jack]

On 2021.10.05 15:32, thelma@sys-concept.com wrote:
> I have "eudev" installed but I think it will be obsolete as of  
> Jan.1/22 according to news: 2021-08-24-eudev-retirement
> 
> Does converting from: sys-fs/eudev
> to: sys-fs/udev
> 
> is as simple as: emerge -C sys-fs/eudev
> emerge sys-fs/udev
Have you read the news item?  It's not quite that literal about what to  
do, but does imply that should work.  However, on 15 Sep there was a  
post on the gentoo-dev list with a link to  
https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev (see README.md) which says that  
there is a new team taking up maintenance of eudev, so it is not  
abandoned, and so it is not clear whether eudev will actually be  
dropped or not.

Re: [gentoo-user] 2021-08-24-eudev-retirement

[Dale]

Jack wrote:
> On 2021.10.05 15:32, thelma@sys-concept.com wrote:
>> I have "eudev" installed but I think it will be obsolete as of
>> Jan.1/22 according to news: 2021-08-24-eudev-retirement
>>
>> Does converting from: sys-fs/eudev
>> to: sys-fs/udev
>>
>> is as simple as: emerge -C sys-fs/eudev
>> emerge sys-fs/udev
> Have you read the news item?  It's not quite that literal about what
> to do, but does imply that should work.  However, on 15 Sep there was
> a post on the gentoo-dev list with a link to
> https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev (see README.md) which says that
> there is a new team taking up maintenance of eudev, so it is not
> abandoned, and so it is not clear whether eudev will actually be
> dropped or not.
>
>


When I switched from udev to eudev, it was as simple as uninstalling
udev and installing eudev.  I'd think as you do the reverse would work
now as well but as you point out, it may not.  I'd recommend going to a
console to do this and logging out of any GUIs as well.  Of course
restarting udev afterwards as well. 

I also saw the post about new maintainers.  I'm hopeful that it will
keep being maintained even tho it can be a headache for devs at times. 
Thing is, I've read a lot of distros use eudev and avoid the systemd
version as much as possible, even tho eudev still has the same code from
my understanding.  Still, I'd rather stick with what works for me. 

Maybe we will know pretty soon what the status of this will be. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

RE: [gentoo-user] 2021-08-24-eudev-retirement

[Laurence Perkins]

> Jack wrote:
> > On 2021.10.05 15:32, thelma@sys-concept.com wrote:
> >> I have "eudev" installed but I think it will be obsolete as of
> >> Jan.1/22 according to news: 2021-08-24-eudev-retirement
> >>
> >> Does converting from: sys-fs/eudev
> >> to: sys-fs/udev
> >>
> >> is as simple as: emerge -C sys-fs/eudev emerge sys-fs/udev
> > Have you read the news item?  It's not quite that literal about what 
> > to do, but does imply that should work.  However, on 15 Sep there was 
> > a post on the gentoo-dev list with a link to 
> > https://github.com/eudev-project/eudev (see README.md) which says that 
> > there is a new team taking up maintenance of eudev, so it is not 
> > abandoned, and so it is not clear whether eudev will actually be 
> > dropped or not.
> >
> >
> 
> 
> When I switched from udev to eudev, it was as simple as uninstalling udev and installing eudev.  I'd think as you do the reverse would work now as well but as you point out, it may not.  I'd recommend going to a console to do this and logging out of any GUIs as well.  Of course restarting udev afterwards as well. 
> 
> I also saw the post about new maintainers.  I'm hopeful that it will keep being maintained even tho it can be a headache for devs at times. Thing is, I've read a lot of distros use eudev and avoid the systemd version as much as possible, even tho eudev still has the same code from my understanding.  Still, I'd rather stick with what works for me. 
> 
> Maybe we will know pretty soon what the status of this will be. 
> 
> Dale
> 
> :-)  :-) 
> 
> 

I was also glad to hear about the new maintainers.  The day after I heard the project had served its purpose and was being abandoned I went to update one of my few systems with udev instead of eudev and the build crashed and it took me a couple hours to trick it into compiling correctly.  I was a little worried that might end up being prophetic.  Whatever the exact differences are, eudev still seems to build a little more reliably.  Maybe it's just that the project does a better job of informing people about changes to the build requirements...

LMP