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Linux x86_64; rv:91.0) Gecko/20100101 Firefox/91.0 SeaMonkey/2.53.17.1 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 In-Reply-To: <20231019000643.44bf5a62@digimed.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: 7ea323da-88c4-4350-bbb5-eb238e1754fb X-Archives-Hash: 7106b71217e3ffb47e260c92f888fd8a Neil Bothwick wrote: > On Wed, 18 Oct 2023 17:27:28 -0500, Dale wrote: > >> I used cgdisk and GPT for my disk even tho it is small, only 300GBs or >> so, mostly out of habit.  The grub install failed and I did a search.  I >> found this and it worked.  >> >> >> >> grub-install fails with "grub-install: warning: this GPT partition label >> contains no BIOS Boot Partition; embedding won't be possible."  > Simple answer, don't use GRUB :-) > > Seriously, GRUB is a bootloader, EFI is a bootloader. You are using one > bootloader to load another bootloader before booting the system. > > rEFIind and systemd-boot are both boot managers, they work with the EFI > bootloader - or you can boot a kernel directly without a boot manager, > but I prefer not to do that as it gives no opportunity to edit options > when booting. > > If you like simple, here is a config file I use with systemd-boot > > version 6.1.57-gentoo > linux /vmlinuz-6.1.57-gentoo > options root=/dev/sda3 panic=10 net.ifnames=0 i915.enable_ips=0 > > That's it! There is a separate file for each menu entry, but they are > this simple. There's also a global loader.conf, that runs to a massive 2 > lines here! > > Right now, I'm still using BIOS type boot.  I've read where you and a couple others use something else and they do sound good but I just haven't got the nerve up to switch.  When I build a new rig, I'll likely get into some other boot manager.  In a way I kinda dread it but on the other hand, I just might like it.  You and several others make the other options sound really good.  That config kinda reminds me of the old grub.  A title line, location of kernel and then options.  Sounds easy enough.  The new grub config is almost impossible to config by hand.  They had to make a tool to do it.  That says a lot there.  ;-)  I wish I could build the new rig tomorrow.  Gotta buy the stuff first tho.  Well, first, I gotta find a good mobo I like.  I got a CPU cooler in.  I got video cards, cables and such in route.  Next month, case.  Next month, likely a power supply and maybe a couple other small things.  Then comes the big things.  Mobo, CPU and memory.  Ka ching.  $$$$ Dale :-)  :-)