From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id C843A13877A for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:08:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 175C7E09D2; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:08:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net (smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net [212.54.42.164]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 99DAEE097B for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 09:08:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [212.54.42.136] (helo=smtp5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net) by smtpq1.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1X1XZd-0006Xf-Pm for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:08:29 +0200 Received: from 53579160.cm-6-8c.dynamic.ziggo.nl ([83.87.145.96] helo=data.antarean.org) by smtp5.tb.mail.iss.as9143.net with esmtp (Exim 4.76) (envelope-from ) id 1X1XZd-0007Rx-1G for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:08:29 +0200 Received: from eve.localnet (eve.adm.antarean.org [10.55.16.19]) (using TLSv1 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by data.antarean.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id DD8634C for ; Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:07:07 +0200 (CEST) From: Joost Roeleveld To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [Less OT] Tally ho! - RC Flight Sims on Linux Date: Mon, 30 Jun 2014 11:08:20 +0200 Message-ID: <2169565.J9db23Bq6q@eve> Organization: Antarean User-Agent: KMail/4.11.5 (Linux/3.10.7-gentoo-r1; KDE/4.11.5; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <53B1264C.2090106@gmail.com> References: <2496439.MpaEqoKpQ0@wstn> <36953122.WCxaytvLTH@eve> <53B1264C.2090106@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="nextPart12428549.3hVh1yxDZq" Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit X-Ziggo-spambar: / X-Ziggo-spamscore: -0.9 X-Ziggo-spamreport: BAYES_00=-1.9,HTML_MESSAGE=0.001,RDNS_DYNAMIC=0.982,T_RP_MATCHES_RCVD=-0.01 X-Ziggo-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Status: No X-Spam-Flag: No X-Archives-Salt: 51b4f9f1-ecb5-48f1-a279-d7cc476650f8 X-Archives-Hash: 0447b497982464963c58ce88404df2bc This is a multi-part message in MIME format. --nextPart12428549.3hVh1yxDZq Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" On Monday 30 June 2014 03:56:44 Dale wrote: > Joost Roeleveld wrote: > > On Monday 30 June 2014 15:40:02 microcai wrote: > >> =E5=9C=A8 2014=E5=B9=B46=E6=9C=8830=E6=97=A5 =E6=98=9F=E6=9C=9F=E4= =B8=80 09:17:02=EF=BC=8CJoost Roeleveld =E5=86=99=E9=81=93=EF=BC=9A > >>=20 > >>> We can turn this into a computer related thread. > >>>=20 > >>> Anyone know of a way to get a flight-sim (for model planes) to ru= n on > >>> Linux? > >>>=20 > >>> I have a legit copy of Realflight ( http://www.realflight.com ) a= nd > >>> occasionally have to boot into a legit copy (yes, all my software= is > >>> 100% > >>> legit) of MS Windows. > >>=20 > >> X-plane ? > >=20 > > Not what I'm looking for. > > That simulates 1:1 scale planes (full size). > >=20 > > I am talking about one I can use to practice flying without risking= my > > real > > planes on the first attempt. I need one where I can use my own tran= smitter > > connected to the computer. There are cables to hook them up to the > > USB-port. > >=20 > > But the problem is finding a decent one that actually runs on Linux= . All > > the commercial ones I can find are MS Windows only. > >=20 > > -- > > Joost >=20 > Don't forget, there was a guitar that ran Gentoo Linux too. I remember that one, still wondering about the point though, but that's= just me :) > Heck, did > plane engines have puters even back then? I know they do now, at lea= st > according to all the stuff I see on TV. I don't think puter stuff > started until like in the 80's or something tho. They had computers during WWII, they used them to break the german encr= yption. They appeared in planes not too long after: See: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly-by-wire *** The first non-experimental aircraft that was designed and flown (in 195= 8) with a fly-by- wire flight control system was the Avro Canada CF-105 Arrow[1],^{[5][2]= [6][3]} a feat=20 not repeated with a production aircraft until Concorde[4] in 1969. This= system also=20 included solid-state components and system redundancy, was designed to = be=20 integrated with a computerised navigation and automatic search and trac= k radar, was=20 flyable from ground control with data uplink and downlink, and provided= artificial feel=20 (feedback) to the pilot. *** Also: https://airandspace.si.edu/exhibitions/america-by-air/online/jeta= ge/jetage17.cfm *** The first autopilots were used on airliners in the mid-1930s. In the la= te 1950s,=20 electronic computers became small enough to be used aboard aircraft. So= phisticated=20 digital computers can now fly aircraft in virtually any situation, whil= e ensuring that all=20 systems are functioning properly. *** > M$ Windoze. Yuck! I wouldn't put that stuff on my rig. I do, for a few programs that aren't available on Linux (yet). The flightsim for RC model planes is one of them. -- Joost -------- [1] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Avro_Canada_CF-105_Arrow [2] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly-by-wire#cite_note-5 [3] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fly-by-wire#cite_note-Whitcomb-6 [4] http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Concorde --nextPart12428549.3hVh1yxDZq Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Type: text/html; charset="utf-8" PCFET0NUWVBFIEhUTUwgUFVCTElDICItLy9XM0MvL0RURCBIVE1MIDQuMC8vRU4iICJodHRwOi8v d3d3LnczLm9yZy9UUi9SRUMtaHRtbDQwL3N0cmljdC5kdGQiPgo8aHRtbD48aGVhZD48bWV0YSBu YW1lPSJxcmljaHRleHQiIGNvbnRlbnQ9IjEiIC8+PHN0eWxlIHR5cGU9InRleHQvY3NzIj4KcCwg bGkgeyB3aGl0ZS1zcGFjZTogcHJlLXdyYXA7IH0KPC9zdHlsZT48L2hlYWQ+PGJvZHkgc3R5bGU9 IiBmb250LWZhbWlseTonU2FucyBTZXJpZic7IGZvbnQtc2l6ZTo5cHQ7IGZvbnQtd2VpZ2h0OjQw MDsgZm9udC1zdHlsZTpub3JtYWw7Ij4KPHAgc3R5bGU9IiBtYXJnaW4tdG9wOjBweDsgbWFyZ2lu LWJvdHRvbTowcHg7IG1hcmdpbi1sZWZ0OjBweDsgbWFyZ2luLXJpZ2h0OjBweDsgLXF0LWJsb2Nr 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