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From: "Jesús Guerrero" <i92guboj@terra.es>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user]  Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your      system'    -- huh?
Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 20:44:37 +0100 (CET)	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <215901dc8c104e4dba104862f553b319.squirrel@jesgue.homelinux.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <gmeivs$go6$1@ger.gmane.org>

El Jue, 5 de Febrero de 2009, 12:36, Nikos Chantziaras escribió:
> Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
>
>> On Donnerstag 05 Februar 2009, Nikos Chantziaras wrote:.
>>
>>>> I can't think of a single reason why the installer should operate
>>>> in a different manner to the way the thing will be used.
>>> Because installation is boring.  The easier it is, the better.
>>>
>>
>> wrong. The installation needs a certain difficulty to keep idiots away.
>> Nobody
>> needs idiots (except maybe ubuntu).
>
> That is insulting.  My mother uses Ubuntu.  Thanks for calling her an
> idiot.  Obviously if someone wants to use his computer in order to get
> something done without doing a Ph.D on Portage and /etc first, then that
> person is an idiot.
>
> Great thinking.  Fortunately, there are people (like the Ubuntu folks)
> who don't think that way and are trying to make Linux more popular to
> people who need a computer to do tasks that are not related to the
> computer itself.

I don't agree with the way to see it of Nikos. However, even if
I agree with you in that having Ubuntu (which is another choice)
is a good thing, I don't agree that Gentoo should be
yet-another-ubuntu.

Gentoo is Gentoo, and Ubuntu is Ubuntu. If your mother uses Ubuntu,
that's fine. But we don't need to lower the acceptance level of
Gentoo so your mother can use it.

I think that it's fair to ask a minimal degree of will to read
and learn for a distro like Gentoo. The rest of Gentoo users do
it, no one died that I know of because of it.

-- 
Jesús Guerrero




  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-05 19:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 211+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-02-03 22:39 [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" -- huh? Grant Edwards
2009-02-03 22:56 ` Grant
2009-02-03 23:02 ` Norberto Bensa
2009-02-07  9:00   ` Nicolas Sebrecht
2009-02-03 23:03 ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-04  0:50   ` Dale
2009-02-03 23:06 ` Paul Hartman
2009-02-03 23:13   ` Constantine D. Kardaris
2009-02-04 10:09   ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' " Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 12:42     ` Sebastián Magrí
2009-02-04 13:19       ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-04 14:01         ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04 16:46           ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-04 17:32         ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 17:48           ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-04 18:03             ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 20:24             ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04 20:37               ` Sebastián Magrí
2009-02-04 21:57                 ` Paul Hartman
2009-02-05  6:07                 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05  7:28                   ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05  7:37                     ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-05  7:57                       ` Dale
2009-02-05  8:05                         ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-05  8:26                           ` Dale
2009-02-05 10:59                             ` Momesso Andrea
2009-02-05  8:13                       ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05  8:56                         ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-05 15:18                           ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-05 11:01                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 11:15                           ` Cocoy Dayao
2009-02-05 13:53                             ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-05 19:51                               ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05 20:25                                 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 21:01                                   ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05 21:08                                     ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05 21:29                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-05 11:36                           ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 12:01                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 13:48                               ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-05 14:04                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 19:00                               ` Mike Edenfield
2009-02-05 19:10                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 19:31                                   ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 19:36                                     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 19:43                                       ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 19:45                                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 20:18                                           ` Mark Knecht
2009-02-05 20:34                                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 19:47                                         ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-05 20:16                                           ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 19:49                                         ` Joshua D Doll
2009-02-05 20:20                                           ` Mark Knecht
2009-02-05 20:32                                             ` Paul Hartman
2009-02-05 20:38                                               ` Joshua D Doll
2009-02-05 22:16                                                 ` Paul Hartman
2009-02-05 22:30                                                   ` Joshua D Doll
2009-02-05 20:57                                               ` Mark Knecht
2009-02-05 21:44                                                 ` Joshua D Doll
2009-02-05 22:57                                                   ` Dale
2009-02-05 23:03                                                     ` Joshua D Doll
2009-02-05 23:03                                                       ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-05 23:12                                                         ` Joshua D Doll
2009-02-06  0:54                                                           ` Dale
2009-02-06  0:58                                                             ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-06  2:45                                                           ` Stroller
2009-02-06  5:48                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-06  3:03                                                         ` Stroller
2009-02-06  3:08                                                           ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-06  4:40                                                             ` Stroller
2009-02-06  5:03                                                               ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-06  6:57                                                                 ` Stroller
2009-02-06  7:17                                                                   ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-06  8:55                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-06 12:36                                                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-06 12:58                                                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-06 13:04                                                                           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-06 13:29                                                                           ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-06 13:49                                                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-06 14:27                                                                               ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-06 16:06                                                                                 ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-06 16:41                                                                                   ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-06 16:40                                                                                     ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-06 16:51                                                                                       ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-06 21:00                                                                                 ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-06 21:08                                                                                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-06 21:30                                                                                     ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-06 21:37                                                                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-06 23:28                                                                                         ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-07  7:53                                                                                           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-07 18:55                                                                                             ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-07  9:57                                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-07 18:13                                                                                   ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-07 18:40                                                                                     ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-07 19:08                                                                                       ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-08  0:42                                                                                         ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-08  0:57                                                                                           ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-08 13:32                                                                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-08 14:41                                                                                               ` Graham Murray
2009-02-08 14:59                                                                                                 ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-06 14:19                                                                             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-06 15:36                                                                             ` Stroller
2009-02-06 14:25                                                                         ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-06 14:25                                                                       ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-07  9:52                                                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-07 11:48                                                                           ` Saphirus Sage
2009-02-07 12:11                                                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-06  5:46                                                               ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-06  8:57                                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-06  9:11                                                                   ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-06  9:23                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-05 22:53                                             ` Dale
2009-02-06  7:41                                           ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 22:10                                         ` momesso.andrea
2009-02-05 20:03                                 ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05 20:12                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-13 10:04                                     ` Joost Roeleveld
2009-02-06  9:02                                 ` Christopher Walters
2009-02-06 12:41                                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-06 19:58                                     ` Christopher Walters
2009-02-06 20:03                                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 12:21                             ` Dirk Uys
2009-02-05 15:23                               ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-05 15:32                                 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 19:56                                 ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-05 12:45                             ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-05 19:44                             ` Jesús Guerrero [this message]
2009-02-05  7:48                     ` Dale
2009-02-05  8:11                     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05  8:50                       ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-06 21:27                       ` Sebastian Günther
2009-02-06 21:36                         ` Dirk Heinrichs
2009-02-06 21:38                           ` Harry Putnam
2009-02-06 21:48                             ` Mark Knecht
2009-02-06 22:42                             ` Roy Wright
2009-02-06 22:55                               ` Dale
2009-02-07  7:17                                 ` Sebastian Günther
2009-02-07  7:43                                   ` Dale
2009-02-07  9:47                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-07 18:27                                 ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-07 18:37                                   ` Dale
2009-02-07 19:02                                     ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-07 19:09                                       ` Dale
2009-02-07 19:23                                         ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-07 13:53                         ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-07 16:20                           ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-07 17:23                             ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-07 17:29                               ` James Homuth
2009-02-07 19:43                                 ` Sebastian Günther
2009-02-07 21:42                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-08  8:54                                     ` Sebastian Günther
2009-02-08 15:40                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-07 19:38                               ` Sebastian Günther
2009-02-07 17:28                             ` Dale
2009-02-05  7:41                   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05  8:29                     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05  8:46                       ` Joshua Murphy
2009-02-05 11:04                       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 20:36                         ` kashani
2009-02-03 23:08 ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" " Yannick Mortier
2009-02-03 23:10 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-03 23:20 ` kashani
2009-02-03 23:48 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-04  6:58   ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04  7:27     ` Christopher Walters
2009-02-04  7:39       ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04 10:32         ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' " Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 15:25           ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-04 15:41             ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-04 16:19               ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-04 16:48                 ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-04 17:54                 ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 17:38             ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 13:03     ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" " Momesso Andrea
2009-02-04 13:15       ` Sebastián Magrí
2009-02-04 13:31         ` Momesso Andrea
2009-02-04 13:56           ` Sebastián Magrí
2009-02-04 15:39             ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for yoursystem" " Prado, Renato (R.P.)
2009-02-04 15:45               ` Yannick Mortier
     [not found]               ` <2F1868733128B647A5383526F5DF600401A91E25@VNAMBV03.vistcorp.ad.visteon .com>
2009-02-04 17:43                 ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for yoursystem' " Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 17:55                   ` Prado, Renato (R.P.)
2009-02-04 13:59           ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" " Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04 16:55             ` Momesso Andrea
2009-02-04 20:40               ` Alan McKinnon
2009-02-04 14:06           ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-04 16:33       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 10:12   ` Steven Lembark
2009-02-05 10:22     ` Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 12:48       ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-05 10:47     ` Dirk Uys
2009-02-05 15:26     ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-05 15:52       ` Neil Bothwick
2009-02-04  3:38 ` James
2009-02-04  6:17   ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-04  6:22     ` Paul Hartman
2009-02-04 15:23       ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-04 16:07       ` James
2009-02-04 16:19         ` Hazen Valliant-Saunders
2009-02-04 16:52           ` James
2009-02-04 16:20         ` Grant Edwards
2009-02-04 19:27         ` Paul Hartman
2009-02-04 10:26     ` [gentoo-user] Re: Gentoo's advantage: 'optimized for your system' " Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04  9:58 ` [gentoo-user] " Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 10:08   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-04 10:34     ` Jesús Guerrero
2009-02-04 18:43 ` [gentoo-user] Gentoo's advantage: "optimized for your system" " pk
2009-02-05 10:08 ` Steven Lembark
2009-02-05 14:43 ` Stroller
2009-02-05 18:18   ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2009-02-05 18:50     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2009-02-05 18:52     ` Mark Knecht

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