From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C3EFB138334 for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 21:29:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A8E0FE0BC6; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 21:29:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.15.15]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id EB312E08AE for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 21:29:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from thetick.localnet ([77.47.110.32]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx003 [212.227.17.190]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LkgAG-1h9nbI03Yy-00aUpF for ; Tue, 18 Dec 2018 22:28:48 +0100 From: Marc Joliet To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] data recovery advice needed Date: Tue, 18 Dec 2018 22:28:38 +0100 Message-ID: <2132790.kOoC5GpD6h@thetick> In-Reply-To: References: <5C18E641.7060506@youngman.org.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart2710533.nQh6tKbadP"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:bREzyH6lUDgQVO6d3QGGUkM5Lbu37GCPCqdRZkTFhST2eCesa2W 3v1wUDI0rh6UPM2o2IUx5gseA65cLyZpNMtbmt3S1BKEvknsSRQUKHtpL9StwCjH5m8PSaM udn5BEZNdodbyw24cVx9YYZo5M/0QggcDnwFiLFd5pzUcJs31AwA/3BSAmJIh1T3cgDbh+m 4IN9O1hnh9tDQwT/jgFAA== X-Spam-Flag: NO X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V03:K0:3NUjZJExvNc=:4LQm6GB8Js1RqP6EKe+tGm VrIfm+G+OTs9+b5ezR+hq+tPXKVB/om6lDsvHGLr8zCsRjor6szByKmWiNTXbJB8CeNExiUk9 u1rqQFkqqI0I4mT61/hN6PpTIGkOQVyJgHKWbDJfmLRzbI+0OJQFlBfP95bGHF19OW1jVmqRx 7iBgdyathLHK8VD2kUDWCUjzW3D72Jer7ZwqYhb9mT8cdaUjNDVsYcbdRxA2ThI2hBi1vaFEZ Z6+KJWgDNkV7jRkON5a4nE7n7yH6WqFmuFsKYP9NGpTxyWNrCJee7NMZI2e36Ra/8n3MqNsBR up2Wqj/mUAFx9rVB5DeD+LHMHF+VGTnHZ5ZxNxcTHZXtBTHFiyKNxKaRCVYa2m5+C56tIYR7B Yryi04D1f2pY5SnquF5wAwiIeCROGsO1a36vVHn/Lp81GqOSLWjeR/8CX6o3+liRwvmqTUcs3 x++pBtmTG8aMSEYcr+SHUv9JOVXZZhIWxVi1Y83+0VP1P4TFlLlDkHXuSnOeBMdKAc3uS7N5u 6ynZvqLPtDNBgEX/xDhKiM5xf/rox3+mmAXxfL7MQqhG/CyhcoV8risgYRQ1EY6tPu0CHQCQ+ 94ZVQFko4DQDngKXDwkjEWWHtSHmiPLKWSp/xy7OY+U5nfcPLsDyQBoRddGMaLhaYxfbFcafJ RS7UmJ3B/ISNl3LkNI83mQBCx0m/cPbJLE414CDvIKU+ZTIiUGcnZKUYB37mAJ0YZhAhVDul1 nI/RvdRxzVUSzvJxJfgxRF0pCszKRkQuv/dEurEDKGktOVUDBLiohBAHchPBHDwCf0O77lO2K 8wam3Ul3Go+7DCsbUs0WujNmknsvB05AcR9NoWP2R35i0WoXnE/iDenUQ2Kuqb4Du1jaBYNim nMiMnOQr2/4tp3x/r2UcDW0Vv58gpI//J2S8KquCw= X-Archives-Salt: 5acbc334-863d-4177-89b4-c2cb981e97d2 X-Archives-Hash: b1751a9bb7f9145ebb35ccaa72b3e345 --nextPart2710533.nQh6tKbadP Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Am Dienstag, 18. Dezember 2018, 16:56:02 CET schrieb Grant Taylor: > On 12/18/2018 05:21 AM, Wols Lists wrote: > > I really don't trust USB and hard drives > > IMHO external USB drive enclosures (physical enclosure, USB to SATA / > PATA / ??? adapter, (no)fan) are suboptimal at best and are most likely > to work when all the components are happy. > > I view them as the weakest link. > > If I have a drive problem, I like to connect the drive to a SATA (PATA) > connector and access the drive directly. I usually have better results > saving data that way. Yeah, that matches my experience as well. Just to add a personal anecdote: I once had an external drive that I thought had broken (it made the "clicks of death"), but after taking it out of its USB enclosure and connecting it directly via IDE (shows how old the drive was...) it actually worked and I was able to copy all data from it. Only one (unimportant) directory had been corrupted. I mean, I still use USB drives, as they're quite practical for some things, but I'm more aware of the potential issues with them now. -- Marc Joliet -- "People who think they know everything really annoy those of us who know we don't" - Bjarne Stroustrup --nextPart2710533.nQh6tKbadP Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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