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Date: Fri, 04 Dec 2020 10:24:10 +0000 Message-ID: <2124947.iZASKD2KPV@lenovo.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <8320c0f9-eef2-6198-478c-828b7b1d4eeb@youngman.org.uk> References: <8320c0f9-eef2-6198-478c-828b7b1d4eeb@youngman.org.uk> On Friday, 4 December 2020 09:09:36 GMT antlists wrote: > On 04/12/2020 01:40, Dale wrote: > > Also, our local power company is about to start rolling out internet > > service. It's done with fiber and the slowest package, 200MBs/sec, is > > over 100 times faster than my current DSL. It only costs $4.00 a month > > more than what I'm paying now. Their fastest package is 1GBs/sec. > > Dang, I can't even imagine that sort of speed. Another good thing, same > > speed BOTH ways. I can upload videos just as fast as I can download > > one. Yeppie!! > >=20 > > My only thing now, I hope it works like DSL/cable/etc and just requires > > me to plug in a ethernet cable. In other words, OS doesn't matter. I > > suspect it does but we will see. >=20 > We went to fibre recently. They put a new box on the wall which takes an > RJ-45 instead of the previous situation where ADSL took an RJ-11. >=20 > All the blurb says "works with BT Hub 6", which we already had, so I > didn't bother getting a new router (you had to pay for the "latest and > greatest" Hub 7). >=20 > When the guy installed it - "where's you new router, it won't work with > this one". No apparently you can't just plug it into any old network > port, the router needs a dedicated WAN link and the Hub 6 came in two > versions, one with an ADSL modem and one with a fibre uplink. >=20 > So it sounds like you need to swap your ADSL router for a cable router > or whatever it is, but apart from that you'll be fine. >=20 > (And then some sales guy working on behalf of BT knocked on the door, > was surprised to find we were already BT customers, and rigged up some > deal that (a) threw in a Hub-7 free, (b) changed our calling plan to > remove the one-hour limit and add free calls to mobiles, and (c) knocked > about =C2=A32 off our monthly bill!!!) >=20 > Cheers, > Wol The full fibre to the premises (FTTP) connection requires a different port = and=20 modem to the ADSL broadband. The basic functionality of an (A)DSL broadband modem is to convert electric= al=20 signals coming down the copper telephone wire to ethernet frames. The basi= c=20 functionality of a fibre modem is to convert the optical signals arriving=20 through the fibre cable to ethernet frames. In the UK, the old copper telephone wires coming into the customer premises= =20 terminated on an RJ11 connector, which was plugged into the corresponding R= J11=20 socket of the ADSL modem, or into the more frequently provided by the ISP=20 modem+router+WiFi combo box. With fibre the modem, now called an Optical Network Terminal (ONT), no long= er=20 has a RJ11 port. Instead it has an optical port to receive the fibre cable= =20 coming into the premises. The ONT also has an RJ45 ethernet port for the L= AN=20 side - where you connect the router's WAN port with an ethernet cable. It= =20 also has a telephone port for VoIP and a power connection. It may also hav= e a=20 UPS connection to provide power to keep the phone working when the mains po= wer=20 supply suffers an outage - some ONT boxes have an internal battery for this= =20 purpose. It follows that an old ADSL router combo box with an RJ11 WAN port is no go= od=20 for fibre - although it can be used as a dumb switch or a WiFi Access Point= in=20 your LAN. Instead a router with an RJ45 ethernet WAN port is required. Mo= re=20 expensive routers/switches come with SFP transceiver ports, in which you ca= n=20 plug either optical or ethernet cables. Prices for fibre are more expensive depending on the ISP and a new contract= is=20 required. Initial discounts are meant to entice earlier migration to fibre= ,=20 but prices will increase by 30% or more after the discount period expires. = If=20 you want to stay at the same speed as ADSL or use fibre for telephone only,= =20 then the price could be the same as the old copper connection, but again it= =20 depends on the ISP. --nextPart1843554.PYKUYFuaPT Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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