From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from <gentoo-user+bounces-128319-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>) id 1R47Xq-0004cu-HS for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 08:43:42 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id F348621C06A; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 08:43:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailout-de.gmx.net (mailout-de.gmx.net [213.165.64.23]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 22B6A21C04B for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Thu, 15 Sep 2011 08:42:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: (qmail invoked by alias); 15 Sep 2011 08:42:38 -0000 Received: from p5B0851BA.dip.t-dialin.net (EHLO pc.localnet) [91.8.81.186] by mail.gmx.net (mp049) with SMTP; 15 Sep 2011 10:42:38 +0200 X-Authenticated: #13997268 X-Provags-ID: V01U2FsdGVkX1/ntSkL9YrnsU5UwC8BXz8t8pMiYQKaHL6rVJwicJ DyR2xXyFa/HnjE From: Michael Schreckenbauer <grimlog@gmx.de> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New gentoo installation fails when trying to install syslog-ng Date: Thu, 15 Sep 2011 10:42:35 +0200 Message-ID: <2115021.GxHpYhldIT@pc> User-Agent: KMail/4.7.1 (Linux/2.6.38-gentoo; KDE/4.7.1; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <1316074572.32829.YahooMailNeo@web112008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> References: <1316012516.68539.YahooMailNeo@web112012.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> <CAA2qdGU8GJ46zNQE44gAhnvzzMhaXYokd2WZqP_+AsPPV0OUcw@mail.gmail.com> <1316074572.32829.YahooMailNeo@web112008.mail.gq1.yahoo.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Y-GMX-Trusted: 0 X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: 70c07e64c169870c939204b9fe6f105a On Thursday, 15. September 2011 01:16:12 Trifu Catalin Florin wrote: > First, make sure you have emerged the kernel's sources. > Second, check that the newer sources have been selected: 'eselect kernel > list' followed by 'eselect kernel set'. Build the kernel, either using > genkernel or make triumvirate (make menuconfig && make && make > modules_install) Install the new kernel in /boot. > Reboot. > Warning: packages that build their own kernel modules, e.g., xtables-addons, > must be re-emerged prior to rebooting. Rgds, > > --- > > :((((((((((((((((((( > :((((((((((((((((((( > > Is it possible to compile the kernel without emerging kernel's sources? No. > I have made an installation one week ago on a virtual machine and it worked > fine. The kernel on that virtual machine is 2.6.39-gentoo-r3. How is it > possible to use the same manual, same mirrors, same steps and still to have > a different kernel version? How is it possible not to work? You did not reboot. > If I use genkernel is because I DON'T KNOW how to compile the kernel > manually. This being said, sentences like: > > "Warning: packages that build their own kernel modules, e.g., > xtables-addons, must be re-emerged prior to rebooting." > > are the Gordian knot for me. No problem. Just use genkernel, if you like. It works for many of us without problems. But you have to reboot. No matter how you build your kernel. > I'm very frustrated because on gentoo's forum no one didn't answer for three > days now, and on this mailing list we have changed 4-5 emails regarding how > an email should be written. If you want help, you need to know, how to ask questions in a "correct way" - if your mails are unreadable, nobody will read them and you will get no answers. > Meanwhile, my server is still offline. Why don't you follow my advices? Have you tried only one of the options I offered? You know, I am an experienced user, I don't tell you shit. > Now, in another order of ideas: > - I have searched the internet for 2-3 days before sending an email here Here's a tip. If you see an error, you cannot decipher, put it into google with quotes and gentoo, in your case: "touch: setting times of" gentoo The second hit, I get here, describes your problem. > - I didn't read the standard of how to send an email and I'm sorry for that > but I didn't had time - I wrote the emails using the format that seemed > more "natural" for me, the newest on top having the track of emails bellow, > so that anyone who sees the email can understand what's this all about, > including myself; I had to search for a half an our in my emails to find > the first email on another topic... - I do not now how you format your > emails to look the way they look, having that sentence on top with "x wrote > on..." and ">" before each line of the text you keep for reply; this is why > I have used standard reply from yahoo, because I didn't wanted to reinvent > the wheel I hit reply in my mail-client (kmail). That's all I have to do. Is yahoo's reply really so broken? Hmmm. > - I HAVE A LOT OF RESPECT FOR EACH USER ON THIS EMAIL LIST BUT I NEED URGENT > HELP ON THE TOPIC: I CANNOT INSTALL GENTOOOOOOO - I AM NOT AN EXPERIENCED > USER WHO CAN CREATE HIS OWN KERNEL, RE-WRITE DRIVERS AND SO ON; PLEASE TAKE > THIS INTO CONSIDERATION AND IF YOU ANSWER HAVE PATIENCE Shouting at people, that try to help, is a bad idea in my book. > Thank you in advance! Best, Michael