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SIGNED_PGP(-2.00)[]; MID_RHS_NOT_FQDN(0.50)[]; MIME_GOOD(-0.20)[multipart/signed,text/plain]; ONCE_RECEIVED(0.10)[]; MX_GOOD(-0.01)[]; RCVD_VIA_SMTP_AUTH(0.00)[]; FUZZY_BLOCKED(0.00)[rspamd.com]; RCPT_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; RCVD_COUNT_ONE(0.00)[1]; ARC_NA(0.00)[]; ASN(0.00)[asn:34931, ipnet:149.255.60.0/22, country:GB]; R_SPF_ALLOW(0.00)[+mx]; MIME_TRACE(0.00)[0:+,1:+,2:~]; R_DKIM_ALLOW(0.00)[kintzios.com:s=default]; RCVD_TLS_ALL(0.00)[]; NEURAL_HAM(-0.00)[-0.986]; REPLYTO_ADDR_EQ_FROM(0.00)[]; FROM_EQ_ENVFROM(0.00)[]; FROM_HAS_DN(0.00)[]; HAS_REPLYTO(0.00)[confabulate@kintzios.com]; DMARC_POLICY_ALLOW(0.00)[kintzios.com,none]; TO_MATCH_ENVRCPT_ALL(0.00)[]; TO_DN_NONE(0.00)[]; PREVIOUSLY_DELIVERED(0.00)[gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org]; DKIM_TRACE(0.00)[kintzios.com:+] X-Archives-Salt: 82a73f92-9131-4ef9-893d-1092bd6e0a87 X-Archives-Hash: 2fec2c3f9a0911a44c73f4b1103e5a2c --nextPart1803908.3VsfAaAtOV Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; protected-headers="v1" From: Michael To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: confabulate@kintzios.com Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] Very slow POST process Date: Wed, 29 Nov 2023 00:16:11 +0000 Message-ID: <2105849.bB369e8A3T@rogueboard> In-Reply-To: MIME-Version: 1.0 On Tuesday, 28 November 2023 15:49:10 GMT Daniel Frey wrote: > On 11/28/23 03:38, Michael wrote: > > Over the last 8-9 months I noticed an old Lenovo G505s laptop is spending > > a > > long time in the POST process, before eventually the OEM logo shows up on > > the screen. Last time I timed it, it took 2.5-3.0 minutes. Normally it > > would only take ~20-30 seconds. Once the logo shows up the boot process > > proceeds without further delay. > > > > Initially, this delay to POST would happen randomly and rarely. Now it > > happens every time. > > > > Things I tried: > > > > 1. Reflashing the UEFI firmware - it didn't work because it already has > > the > > latest firmware. > > > > 2. Removing the main battery and holding down the power button for 15 > > seconds, hoping to reset the firmware. > > > > 3. Leaving the PSU cable connected overnight. > > > > 4. Testing the RAM and HDD. > > > > None of the above improved the situation, or indicated what might be > > wrong. > > > > I'll reseat the RAM sticks and the HDD next, in case a contact is > > oxidised, > > but what else could cause this noticeable delay to POST? A failing RTC > > CMOS battery? > > We have had a few of these at work and these symptoms were cured by a > new CMOS battery. The voltage on the battery has likely dipped to > 2.9-3.0 volts; they get unreliable then (i.e. it's dead.) If you leave > it long enough you'll start getting RTC errors on POST. > > I'd try that first, assuming you can still get the CMOS battery for these. > > Dan Thanks Dan, will do. I was planning to take it apart soon to replace the HDD with an SSD, so this would be the first thing to check. I expect finding a replacement unit will be difficult. Every Lenovo RTC battery seems to have a different part number. --nextPart1803908.3VsfAaAtOV Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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