From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D5452139335 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 11:15:07 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id BEE5FE0870; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 11:15:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-gw.thundermail.uk (mail-gw.thundermail.uk [149.255.60.71]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0E5E2E0833 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 11:14:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgw01.thundermail.uk (mail-gw.thundermail.uk [149.255.60.66]) by mail-gw.thundermail.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 189C36000217 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 12:14:58 +0100 (BST) X-ASG-Debug-ID: 1624965297-05541316c7179740001-LfjuLa Received: from cloud220.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk (cloud220.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk [149.255.60.183]) by mailgw01.thundermail.uk with ESMTP id lbLExWoPVQEaCoZA (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 bits=128 verify=NO) for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 12:14:57 +0100 (BST) X-Barracuda-Envelope-From: confabulate@kintzios.com X-Barracuda-Effective-Source-IP: cloud220.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk[149.255.60.183] X-Barracuda-Apparent-Source-IP: 149.255.60.183 Received: from lenovo.localdomain (230.3.169.217.in-addr.arpa [217.169.3.230]) by cloud220.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPSA id 6AA58C46CD2 for ; Tue, 29 Jun 2021 12:14:56 +0100 (BST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=kintzios.com; s=default; t=1624965296; bh=JuteGlEvItyKsueKEkUfiIAdqAhV2WFlByQt1AgUAdM=; h=From:To:Subject; b=ABZ4IIrc9977g9Zt9fl2/LgNcTrM3A9ek3h5Mo7D67JGj4eBuz7VQi5sqOb5rUYCa 3Vm/pcyLfO8R0Dh81LJGYb/5qg0HlTmw7D70pkpkyGyAepKlCRNiKo7xUB3NdFp4te ymOvDtWfndUGw6W2nutqq66Fg7Gb2fu399qCYx/o= From: Michael To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [FIXED] New install - Wayland and graphical login Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 12:14:56 +0100 X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [gentoo-user] [FIXED] New install - Wayland and graphical login Message-ID: <2077431.Mh6RI2rZIc@lenovo.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <2cc7fc9a-9ccf-d89b-9416-891ccd2df0f1@youngman.org.uk> References: <60D0BDF3.9000302@youngman.org.uk> <3117721.aeNJFYEL58@lenovo.localdomain> <2cc7fc9a-9ccf-d89b-9416-891ccd2df0f1@youngman.org.uk> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="nextPart3432968.R56niFO833"; micalg="pgp-sha256"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-PPP-Message-ID: <20210629111456.701217.96872@cloud220.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk> X-PPP-Vhost: kintzios.com X-Barracuda-Connect: cloud220.unlimitedwebhosting.co.uk[149.255.60.183] X-Barracuda-Start-Time: 1624965297 X-Barracuda-Encrypted: ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 X-Barracuda-URL: https://149.255.60.66:443/cgi-mod/mark.cgi X-ASG-Orig-Subj: Re: [gentoo-user] [FIXED] New install - Wayland and graphical login X-Virus-Scanned: by bsmtpd at thundermail.uk X-Barracuda-Scan-Msg-Size: 2135 X-Barracuda-BRTS-Status: 1 X-Barracuda-Spam-Score: 0.00 X-Barracuda-Spam-Status: No, SCORE=0.00 using global scores of TAG_LEVEL=1000.0 QUARANTINE_LEVEL=1000.0 KILL_LEVEL=1.9 tests= X-Barracuda-Spam-Report: Code version 3.2, rules version 3.2.3.90982 Rule breakdown below pts rule name description ---- ---------------------- -------------------------------------------------- X-Archives-Salt: b1205fcd-3fdc-4ac6-8914-9973e0f8762c X-Archives-Hash: 0d02f5bd9a0da1c58df049c6a078ba79 --nextPart3432968.R56niFO833 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8"; protected-headers="v1" From: Michael To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-To: confabulate@kintzios.com Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [FIXED] New install - Wayland and graphical login Date: Tue, 29 Jun 2021 12:14:56 +0100 Message-ID: <2077431.Mh6RI2rZIc@lenovo.localdomain> In-Reply-To: <2cc7fc9a-9ccf-d89b-9416-891ccd2df0f1@youngman.org.uk> References: <60D0BDF3.9000302@youngman.org.uk> <3117721.aeNJFYEL58@lenovo.localdomain> <2cc7fc9a-9ccf-d89b-9416-891ccd2df0f1@youngman.org.uk> On Tuesday, 29 June 2021 11:32:52 BST antlists wrote: > On 29/06/2021 10:44, Michael wrote: > > In Plasma this would be kwin, which acts as a window manager and a > > compositor. If you had installed Plasma in accordance with the URL I > > shared in previous emails you shouldn't have this problem, because from > > what I recall kwin is being drawn in as a dependency of Plasma. > > And Plasma is a dependency of what? Again, this is down to me not fully > understanding everything, but surely if I selected the > desktop/plasma/systemd profile, that should call in the basic plasma > packages by default? Maybe even the kde ones? The make.profile choice switches on/off certain USE flags and specifies a set of system packages for the particular profile. These will in turn drag in other packages as dependencies when you update your system. Therefore, unless you go for a minimalist make.profile you should not need to be emerging packages one at a time to get a functional desktop, although you will need to emerge individual applications of choice if these are not already included in the DE default set of packages. More details: https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Profile_(Portage) KDE applications are mostly grouped in meta packages. These are meant to be installed selectively. For example I install 'kde-apps/kdepim-meta' because I use Kmail, but will not install 'kde-apps/kdegames-meta' because I don't run any games applications. > (Having re-read the KDE page, it's suddenly making a lot more sense, but > that's with hindsight. But am I right that the profile modifies the > system set of packages?) Yes, as I mention above, it modifies USE flags and specifies a set of system packages too. You could have started with a stripped down profile, like 'default/linux/ amd64/17.1/systemd (stable)' and then spend a lot of time tweaking USE flags and installing various packages and meta packages to get to the same end result. Thanks to Gentoo devs, all this work is no longer necessary since there are more make.profile options to choose from. :-) --nextPart3432968.R56niFO833 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: This is a digitally signed message part. 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