From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org ([208.92.234.80] helo=lists.gentoo.org) by finch.gentoo.org with esmtp (Exim 4.60) (envelope-from ) id 1QZsmt-0002uh-Kd for garchives@archives.gentoo.org; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:54:15 +0000 Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id E2EA41C13E; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:49:17 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-ww0-f53.google.com (mail-ww0-f53.google.com [74.125.82.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 76B6C1C127 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 22:49:16 +0000 (UTC) Received: by wwf26 with SMTP id 26so2095122wwf.10 for ; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:49:16 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=domainkey-signature:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:user-agent :in-reply-to:references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding :content-type; bh=YKwh2k4Q3uldDe+L8uUqyDh2U/986zNTZuGkj6wkGZk=; b=ZiuBESfN6wrbF3mVAbLpAGphunro/rr9dOVk0L050z1Ma7JZXmYFI/stk+7RB3LINE x0QFGWXF2mTWuA/5juzzYtb4qWgVGaKZDHium+05MV6laAO5f6ukvJlfKpp3j3IiFwDp SWbGnzrRP4prlxziV1yUV2pG3X7xxxp2PsfPs= DomainKey-Signature: a=rsa-sha1; c=nofws; d=gmail.com; s=gamma; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; b=oEwtl6WnZUslbPvEWHRGcrdDFHaPAzTzRBZeiDBD2MVQceWO7rJ1NOzaAo7SXP4bLI 0DAjJvhxtfHrTvvcEU+5YFrg3wJSBQdHbGX0tREQS4ehbz7It3DyUpnFEpX/smCE1pAC tE+jp7DxhsGPxufDEgyvgrEho6N/SSpDvQEyI= Received: by 10.217.0.8 with SMTP id k8mr3873493wes.42.1308869356385; Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:49:16 -0700 (PDT) Received: from nazgul.localnet (196-210-183-215.dynamic.isadsl.co.za [196.210.183.215]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id l53sm1100954weq.47.2011.06.23.15.49.14 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 23 Jun 2011 15:49:15 -0700 (PDT) From: Alan McKinnon To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Peter Humphrey Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Do we have to build gcc with fortran now? Date: Fri, 24 Jun 2011 00:48:11 +0200 Message-ID: <2041668.8aWOlI8Y2M@nazgul> User-Agent: KMail/4.6.0 (Linux/2.6.39-ck; KDE/4.6.4; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <201106232330.04283.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> References: <4E0167C4.9080100@gmail.com> <4E026E39.6040802@gmail.com> <201106232330.04283.peter@humphrey.ukfsn.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" X-Archives-Salt: X-Archives-Hash: a5b14ba73d5bbb6f6763d6db38369151 On Thursday 23 June 2011 23:30:04 Peter Humphrey did opine thusly: > On Wednesday 22 June 2011 23:35:37 Dale wrote: > > Maybe we have something different then. I don't have > > blas-reference on here anymore either. My point was, disabling > > fortran to remove it only lead to other stuff being required. > > I think there is more on here now than there was before. So, > > removing fortran to get rid of bloat didn't help any because it > > just required a different set of bloat. > > Maybe it's time to make a backup, then remove all USE flags from > make.conf and package.use, set your profile to > default/linux//10.0/desktop/kde and rebuild. Alan and Neil's > idea of a set of the meta-packages you want sounds good to me too. > > Then you'll really have a clean system. You will have whatever system the profile maintainer thinks the average user should have, bloated to whatever degree said maintainer thinks is a good idea. No USE flags set does not mean no options set, it means default. And default sets plenty flags ON > I may follow suit - I built this system with kde-meta for > simplicity, but of course it now has a lot of stuff I don't want, > including Fortran. I tried rebuilding with -fortran as I said a few > minutes ago, but portage wanted ifc instead. kde-meta gives you all the stuff that's useful on the average system, plus all of accessibility, kdebindings, kdeedu, games, the sdk, toys and maybe even webdev. I can't think of the kind of user that truly does actually need all of that. -- alan dot mckinnon at gmail dot com