From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id A00AC13800E for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2012 16:31:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 25CA521C020; Thu, 2 Aug 2012 16:31:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-bk0-f53.google.com (mail-bk0-f53.google.com [209.85.214.53]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id B8E45E0782 for ; Thu, 2 Aug 2012 16:29:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: by bkwj4 with SMTP id j4so4813606bkw.40 for ; Thu, 02 Aug 2012 09:29:45 -0700 (PDT) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=googlemail.com; s=20120113; h=from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id:user-agent:in-reply-to :references:mime-version:content-transfer-encoding:content-type; bh=kjLXJteUumwpi2xQvxMb6yzZIxro9E0fGoeRkdeM3Bs=; b=tzGauv0z1OXIjzBF+EkPujHcdWiuoEZasHhx1ly0wBIrrC2khdFueF6qw8BQ1A0j6+ xj+GpmswlAW5Y9EaVvNyAtOTBscA4Zx+y6zE2PJP5+m11YV4OIiY82deYnlA+HrxgGKc gCfNh/RDSa2/1R91D8yVu3251LJEj9yRbM+a7kPTEkghzNWblZgbotGW1aZaKUr64HDp GNz22ZRNDVDn3OjS9rGMCvGHskNZoEIyx2xHb2XUkI/43xJvVMHqo3ySpdGhQAII4aq5 nf7RFho0sqX1yEcRQ+vFA6VwFBag94WVu9L3nJ1/dEV8k2r0av+YZjLPDtmTDlHEx7ox Ddow== Received: by 10.204.154.73 with SMTP id n9mr8533543bkw.113.1343924985826; Thu, 02 Aug 2012 09:29:45 -0700 (PDT) Received: from localhost.localnet (p4FC61171.dip0.t-ipconnect.de. [79.198.17.113]) by mx.google.com with ESMTPS id t23sm3747218bks.4.2012.08.02.09.29.43 (version=TLSv1/SSLv3 cipher=OTHER); Thu, 02 Aug 2012 09:29:44 -0700 (PDT) From: Volker Armin Hemmann To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Philip Webb Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] new machine : proposed design Date: Thu, 02 Aug 2012 18:29:42 +0200 Message-ID: <2033285.p9jDDYbDvt@localhost> User-Agent: KMail/4.9 rc2 (Linux/3.2.24; KDE/4.8.97; x86_64; ; ) In-Reply-To: <20120801203321.GA2917@ca.inter.net> References: <20120801034734.GB2882@ca.inter.net> <4907726.p1P3XsEzEE@localhost> <20120801203321.GA2917@ca.inter.net> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7Bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" X-Archives-Salt: 51c1746f-f9c2-42f1-a7e0-bba34f275f97 X-Archives-Hash: 8e953814c8299a805df33bbb39f9e496 Am Mittwoch, 1. August 2012, 16:33:21 schrieb Philip Webb: > 120801 Volker Armin Hemmann wrote: > > Kingston is way too expensive for their low quality products. > > You can just buy some cheapo 'almost' noname brand and get better results. > > At my regular store (no, I'm not schlepping all over town), I see : > > AMD Entertainment 4 GB DDR3 1600 MHz CL9 Optimized for AMD : 24.99 > > They have 8 in stock, which suggests they're popular with customers. > I'm sceptical re 'optimized for AMD', but it is the same manufacturer. > This is 1600 MHz a/a the Kingston, which is 1330 MHz , > but I want to re-use a stick I already own from another machine > which is also a Kingston 4 GB 1330 MHz , so I won't be using the speed. > I've never had a problem with Kingston memory nor with their USB sticks, > so I need a bit more convincing (smile). > > > And the SSD - seriously ? Get OCZ or Samsung: > > Kingston is just rebranding one of those. > > There are no Samsung SSDs available at the store (do they make them ? ). are you joking? Samsung is one of the big ones - a lot of laptops run with rebranded Samsung SSDs. Samsung produces flash chips, their own controllers and well performing SSDs. > However, OCZ does look very competitive (thanks for this bit of advice): > > OCZ Vertex3 240 GB SATA3 6 GB/s R 550 MB/s W 525 MB/s : 209.99 > OCZ Vertex4 128 GB SATA3 6 GB/s R 560 MB/s W 430 MB/s : 124.99 > OCZ Vertex3 120 GB SATA3 6 GB/s R 550 MB/s W 500 MB/s : 119.99 have that one. Is a nice one. > OCZ Agility3 120 GB SATA3 6 GB/s R 525 MB/s W 500 MB/s : 99.99 > > So I can pay CAD 60 more & get twice the storage > or save CAD 25 - 50 & get the same storage. > I don't suppose the R/W variations make much difference in everyday use > (the Kingston I listed is R 555 W 510 : in the same ballpark). > Moreover, all of them are 10+ in stock, again suggesting popularity. > > So you've got my attention (grin). Any further comments by VAH or others ? yeah, seriously, don't buy case+psu combos. They almost always suck. Also: the bigger the fan, the less speed you need them to run at. The quieter they are. If you can get a case with placings for 14cm fans and it is comparable to some 12 or 8cm case - get the where you can use 14cm fans. it is really worth it. -- #163933