From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D2545159C96 for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:46:37 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 3D1272BC069; Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:46:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.web.de (mout.web.de [212.227.15.4]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange ECDHE (prime256v1) server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 88F072BC01A for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2024 17:46:32 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=web.de; s=s29768273; t=1722275186; x=1722879986; i=finkandreas@web.de; bh=fjY56tkyPF3xU2LB6L+0oG4uGqfUtyuA8168KYhuH+0=; h=X-UI-Sender-Class:Date:From:To:Subject:Message-ID:In-Reply-To: References:MIME-Version:Content-Type:Content-Transfer-Encoding:cc: content-transfer-encoding:content-type:date:from:message-id: mime-version:reply-to:subject:to; b=UCycEq62kb6X0HiZU6pAopBC9ErH02IbODzolcgHfsxOxgHrkiaV1op+9i/7kTEd dd8aR436Hog4MUzsXmv/kHA0fn0RVS0lpibkdiLQiwIoW7Kte3ebg9ReEncmT1VEy h3Lne9l0IO/0Hy6VlgNye6zgEiSdHY2owH71mGklpL+9VKegDJaPehykHzAx6X3Kc Bw65stJIrx1BoYDVNtdUHSSFlL3rtIYD9GuePjLSJvmwTaDk3BgAAOO1pMZMw3VPb U4AGHlVLIKbKXAYidXQQbQwD3I8TjNNwHwHgY0cL0AzhFuF7CIXYICdvxPibEeeBW M6EanY1ic39o6zypKg== X-UI-Sender-Class: 814a7b36-bfc1-4dae-8640-3722d8ec6cd6 Received: from anfink-laptop ([213.55.237.41]) by smtp.web.de (mrweb006 [213.165.67.108]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 1M3m59-1sXfN43qHj-0053py for ; Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:46:26 +0200 Date: Mon, 29 Jul 2024 19:46:24 +0200 From: Andreas Fink To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] 17 new packages because pip wants to write poetry? Message-ID: <20240729194624.3b958844@anfink-laptop> In-Reply-To: References: X-Mailer: Claws Mail 4.3.0 (GTK 3.24.42; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Provags-ID: V03:K1:SdtL9kdmldWz45B0eII8PvT5Gq3MLdLlvE5mB6ceb53cRWUKnAs T/ekRi5o5SUWrm+mgKuLuUDwASEg1HnZ+t6wKJ49zOcu/7nHYd5yjh4mo9Wpcwq88WhL+XY cn03pwqbWghWtTsLY3WTQFcpwMcIozPQMRm0Jlav/pgovviLv3jqXsq2E1Qy2kYfcVbdHYc Gv1r406GClZFmnRvweIxQ== X-Spam-Flag: NO UI-OutboundReport: notjunk:1;M01:P0:2FA7CyKDNmQ=;FnePZHskk3zOCx4+iNNl9bqZHGS Jhf8ykyAXNY6x+9gGVH3CBBqEfTbBizmy7L/v3K6SXVSGXgGnJUiO72tHUCXhul9NLN+wc/9i rkytPnrwc6MLQqKRC483N+gqopXXlXlwJ/4YzQcIE7UqYt17Nc+b/vW2RjTeddSOq093N3No5 kK7apoF4pOrudFFJNvuzYqGPRtfCs+a7DKlUQFCnK2jNWb5w1j8v8M/SM6ZCI4cNuQcAp1KOK TLqbw53liseY/hO7c08pQS8ZBgakTVgsCl2TewipxU4pP/VYqw9oceQ+bLJ8haWOkiTEarDST WDgohpqSOSLUJdhPHhgPUqZIHREwtcr+22JxHydeYl8H/k98T6ykYif8SbM/0+fqckAge1Qof jHPd83zwOrTruRbLHYjUYakFdirGs118m/Pcf2N2uz7SfclTznHrnh721q61ZxYq1Xojx6faP xVp3uTtz85WCR1Rp7yAGN9YJsq3+eboxr8o4QuXgpo8hPnfqPzU389702/0ifktDiABLdK5W3 eEUpQYOi+FC05Dl/oLsKqXJfabUKdwHv33fJuXoxOU76kDxiLfOqoIellk7U9LSixAvWwu64q HXThnsVBuYkpNeLm86mWlM1CG1T86Vd2YD5QQNpN8mooU9sEfjAQAOOomMDHd238vu0H2F4Bc GP7vt/ooOvaD6YJtBu7eWaXHgln+aH9TAfWdl+HUrbBjUpcL8vCjmOVbswGzcREHVb1NrJZeP F6d4yiq4uQj5o7e0ncqBQDwgfTLLkYdT5asqCMXSZy7fjLrhhArJZTQXTsrVFIHEloEUBLCJo 4YosA+kxsmo9GgoJGr5mVnYg== X-Archives-Salt: 4195b1b4-31cd-435f-bf29-ccead5674ae1 X-Archives-Hash: 470b5a4cd537cccd7691153763deaec0 On Mon, 29 Jul 2024 16:01:19 -0000 (UTC) Grant Edwards wrote: > It turns out dev-python/poetry has nothing to do with poetry, so my AI > paranoia was unjustified (this time), but one wonders what devs are > thinking when the decide they add dozens of new dependencies like > that. Devs are thinking how to make their life easier and not how to please you. pip is opensource, go ahead, unbundle the unnecessary bits, help the devs making it work also without these dependencies. I am in no way involved in the development of pip, but this attitude is very counterproductive.