Re: [gentoo-user] Threads changing Was: OT: website design

[Volker Armin Hemmann <volkerarmin@googlemail.com>]

On Saturday 04 June 2011 15:46:49 Indi wrote:
> On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:38:52PM +0200, Volker Armin Hemmann wrote:
> > On Saturday 04 June 2011 11:59:52 kashani wrote:
> > > On 6/4/2011 11:43 AM, Indi wrote:
> > > > On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 08:11:09PM +0200, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > > >> Apparently, though unproven, at 17:20 on Saturday 04 June
> > > >> 2011, Indi
> > > >> did opine
> > > >> 
> > > >> thusly:
> > > >>> On Sat, Jun 04, 2011 at 09:54:11AM -0500, Dale wrote:
> > > >>>> I suspected it was whatever device was being used.  Sort
> > > >>>> of like
> > > >>>> top
> > > >>>> posting.  Some people have to top post because the device
> > > >>>> they are
> > > >>>> using won't let them reply any other way.
> > > >>>> 
> > > >>>> I just wonder if there is some setting that could be
> > > >>>> changed
> > > >>>> somewhere
> > > >>>> to make it work correctly with usenet, or whatever you
> > > >>>> were using.
> > > >>> 
> > > >>> As soon as Alan said it was me, I thought of the difference
> > > >>> between
> > > >>> usenet and email headers and that mail2news gateway. It
> > > >>> actually
> > > >>> shouldn't be hard to workaround, but having already worked
> > > >>> around a
> > > >>> couple of other issues with it I'm ready to just use the
> > > >>> email like
> > > >>> "normal folks" and be done fooling with it. :)
> > > >> 
> > > >> FWIW,
> > > >> 
> > > >> If I set kmail to display just routine ordinary threaded mail
> > > >> there's a lot less thread breakage. It's not all gone, but it
> > > >> is considerably less.
> > > >> 
> > > >> Setting kmail to display threads based on "activity" -
> > > >> whatever the
> > > >> blazes that is - breaks things wholesale. I haven't managed to
> > > >> narrow it down at all so I have no idea what the algorithm
> > > >> is.
> > > >> 
> > > >> Looks like there's more to this than just usernet<->mail
> > > >> gateway
> > > >> brokenness
> > > > 
> > > > I'd switch if *mutt* was breaking threading for other people,
> > > > but I'm
> > > > pretty sure it isn't. Now kmail and the other
> > > > pointy-clicky-html-loving apps, *those* I don't trust...  Tried
> > > > 'em, found 'em wanting. ;)
> > > > 
> > > > It would be good to hear from more people running different
> > > > MUAs,
> > > > but IMO mutt is the Gold Standard and is almost certaily doing
> > > > what it's supposed to do.
> > > 
> > > Whatever you're using is breaking threading in Thunderbird and I
> > > can't
> > > think of anyone else lately I've had the problem with. Also mutt has
> > > broken threading in the past and even between different versions of
> > > itself... so calling it a gold standard may be an overstatement.
> > 
> > it is golden brown, runny and smelly. Some call it 'gold'.
> 
> I hate the way you beat around the bush. Just tell us how you *really*
> feel, dammit!
> 
> ;)

<diplomatic mode> I have a slightly adverse general opinion about the mail 
client called 'mutt'. I am not saying that this is the fault of its devs nor 
do I suggesst that there is anything wrong with its users. </diplomatic mode>

Pine is slightly less gruesome.. Old kmail rocked. It even did well with 
threads where the thread id was mangled - threading by subject was an option. 
Haven't looked into the options with the kmail beta I am using at the moment. 
I am glad that it is more or less stable.
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