From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 6E095158020 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 10:13:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 90921E0817; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 10:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pj1-x1036.google.com (mail-pj1-x1036.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1036]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 43985E07DB for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 10:12:55 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pj1-x1036.google.com with SMTP id 3-20020a17090a098300b00219041dcbe9so4687394pjo.3 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 02:12:55 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :message-id:subject:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=YTxU3sZzR9Zwsfh24pCYdlH5LCtCduqD9s+lXt9Ukms=; b=YxGg741epHoTi/1w9isMmgel4ZBXXSSIh08o5v+5S5MxygffFh24vM60jdsZH/78xS CoRcM4bbdGMYJpGGPIAjn/PpolVkdh8BEFyP+3zOdW6xLGNLXDHNTeDAI2tWbOwRd7Pu KsiU6OjS9Ys16j5frbMeRWKVUjJrh+IgUnEFvyqD+e98EHE01KAn97fE4K0DdT5Uw+SL lEydGsehhsyqkyyRjyiqWu/2n80EJjpoD2l5ssfrhQQsPA9sa7lu+VBIOVVDoMtx1MUc JBdpuUAXqFSZ6E+ZBceX4mYDufK6Q1V4y4ARcjvyooZ1+pWHKwvbzEnwyW5TVTu+5L2T bILQ== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=YTxU3sZzR9Zwsfh24pCYdlH5LCtCduqD9s+lXt9Ukms=; b=oAtVmHGLuVctQjhLRon9h2DNSTOMWD9ww+WILfmvs2JIVghFTBEM8oNUEakxTKTYsG xIwhm1kOHT7SLjNZSIdCNaWn7oM2Z7BT3pvLTcuLnh93i1rzN1aTfgqIjobtkj+3/ZCf hu7bHnw3YPGNPK4X/SOdly0ZWT510ll1CbHeipFTA/ZeNDoa2bJdswIq4q09NeJ4AxS0 cgeBmKTzHfXPiyEH9PVHXa7BpgABzuteu+KEWIp/nR2f3OF6Se1U2hyNN5HkJf2lcOQR Sr5kYGRSc2dkCZnMNc/r3qrDeUcxT5fl8UFXe9qRxqhVaENN5BOAVrARLU3e6ctRPTmW gITA== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pmdUL5QBz5bYGVh5tuxPCpWvXbl/AIzeqnWQx4y3ONhfHdH5kLQ L6gbOs1dBV/0I2YbRRrFUJ0Z8+jAFnA= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf5WYTMLt1Iq00xC8cmOnLbYHkt2zhauhIzC4ys8LHfct7+7uWMCzWcuujpJYMSY2oUqjcQqHQ== X-Received: by 2002:a05:6a20:a6a6:b0:ad:e765:9597 with SMTP id ba38-20020a056a20a6a600b000ade7659597mr20632676pzb.18.1671271973900; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 02:12:53 -0800 (PST) Received: from irondust.home ([104.246.155.40]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id k186-20020a6324c3000000b00478a3079b7esm2774267pgk.19.2022.12.17.02.12.53 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Sat, 17 Dec 2022 02:12:53 -0800 (PST) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2022 02:12:52 -0800 From: Alan Ianson To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gaming on gentoo Message-Id: <20221217021252.693f5543060e60ff71d04571@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20221212211735.7b27d72cb9494f2c60cd5a79@gmail.com> <20221213042447.fec45ff12c611e2a865f269e@gmail.com> <20221213052545.ee106dd3176ebd3614dbbab9@gmail.com> <20221213054514.235e6fe13d775219b3c5c78b@gmail.com> <20221213062400.78ae784ee3d9530b3e55bd01@gmail.com> <20221216171732.22a5442fb4308c6b761d8201@gmail.com> <20221216182033.25726bc406a8e962863ef0b6@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Archives-Salt: 35799e9f-be8d-48fd-a644-11f172e8f20f X-Archives-Hash: 43a13317afd3426c8ef27bdeeda42830 On Sat, 17 Dec 2022 11:03:42 +0200 Artur Tamm wrote: > I try to have a systemd and pulseaudio free setup ("religious" reasons). I also prefer OpenRC myself but I like pulseaudio. It doesn't replace alsa, it compliments it. > When I need pulse I use apulse and otherwise everything else is compiled > with alsa flag. I normally have both alsa and pulseaudio once I have a desktop profile selected. It's worked well for me. > I wonder if the issue is related to graphics drivers/libraries instead. I don't think so but it might be. It really doesn't make sense does it? There is some detail in the works here. It is odd since I have never had a problem with quakespasm or darkplaces. I have always built them from source and they always run without any issues. I also have issues with ioquake3. I can run a binary I built on slackware and it runs fine (here, on gentoo). When I try to build on gentoo the build fails. I haven't had a good look at that though, I'll leave that on the back burner and look at that another time. > D remember having segfaults with some other > linux ports whirh were caused by a missing library which did not show up (I > do not remember the name but something with ?t3c?) but I think it is now in > mesa. .If you figure out what opengl features are being used we could > compare glxinfo outputs. I am going to build a quakespasm with debugging support and run it through gdb. I am no expert with any of this though, so I have to read up on how to do that. I hope that will provide an answer I can understand and work out. I'll reply with anything I find and hopefully at some point I can move beyond this. > So, I tested quakespasm on an ryzen 7 apu (2700u) with vega gpu (thinkpad > e485). I am using mesa drivers and a linux 6.0.8 kernel. I was sporting a 6.1 kernel a couple days ago without any issues. :) I am running 5.15.80 now and am happy to stick with the defaults that the gentoo devs choose to go with most times.