From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (2048 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B7155158020 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 01:17:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 30E5BE0874; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 01:17:36 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail-pj1-x1031.google.com (mail-pj1-x1031.google.com [IPv6:2607:f8b0:4864:20::1031]) (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits) key-exchange X25519 server-signature RSA-PSS (4096 bits) server-digest SHA256) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 38676E084A for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2022 01:17:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: by mail-pj1-x1031.google.com with SMTP id t17so4057391pjo.3 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:17:35 -0800 (PST) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=gmail.com; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :message-id:subject:to:from:date:from:to:cc:subject:date:message-id :reply-to; bh=llFvoWzI7p7SnjmgP3tz5QDLYBpwrSTxPX67ZDFmo1w=; b=mc6kMoveDkyhM65l+dKHc5Zb1EZ02CVqDIeszyYHYs3E2TvjmMB8A38o+OsiQueyIs b/jIM2FEWKwBnJJVu+Uv854zfv340Rnoj+JM7neaM6/hWGhNbbVrbyLk4/Zki0f/E/oR +kCDUKLr+23V3WzIt0NQomxIIJMmhHUDkn6ME5F9kiPGF2N2dwiXPSXqqi0cOTqHYJkn 4Und+Y+3pXaPFp4Cb2JfgRmkacYKCR3e1zmDX1YETJY5CRk+lojmyyF2l+TssATPeNEq vnQDILUiIoQrXAirpuZfZT+Xn4gnmmEFwaGhmphhtpm+JdlXwn4I6DkKyDOQ0KdbZe7K tAWw== X-Google-DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=1e100.net; s=20210112; h=content-transfer-encoding:mime-version:references:in-reply-to :message-id:subject:to:from:date:x-gm-message-state:from:to:cc :subject:date:message-id:reply-to; bh=llFvoWzI7p7SnjmgP3tz5QDLYBpwrSTxPX67ZDFmo1w=; b=WYXEDuTvz41hZYm0VMVlXQe3SBfAimxDkBuU/oqjArO1NG7BCp0qIFuZYdE33bmX1f VUGW6LCg6puFNxryaDQC9CCRGEiXlueaElC+WpE8UpzBjyf10T5B/DZII2SnJpG+wPXD 5qCQfh08+a1U155432k1WOUGo9E+tvClXWAbel/ZtQZq6CdvevCww09nUGFNpuyu5Uof dOUi30Uv3E5HKk2YzdPFxPRByngcivGtoCEEO+ISsYtyqv60tZKC4JO9GL6zC0w/kplH n3KfVNKHHYmWbx8tdRwf5ehBt4IxutF4khw75J1GSTShT/PiO+6JFYTMauyyuO7BjcJZ hn2w== X-Gm-Message-State: ANoB5pk0iv04OJFDmDWrNBmh8ek6Wsw6aPIIpnaNSKn5ai8Zl9Zoafn3 ioQgjhdpW5n9jSSLaRAJQNDv5neutXQ= X-Google-Smtp-Source: AA0mqf4Gb0LAqRBiM02TQoWqOaqFSYCSsCQ2vYKtm+iZEN8hueU0V3uY8BniqWYvzPWK0BNeIrJnZw== X-Received: by 2002:a17:902:7882:b0:189:97c5:52d7 with SMTP id q2-20020a170902788200b0018997c552d7mr30924768pll.54.1671239853820; Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:17:33 -0800 (PST) Received: from irondust.home ([104.246.155.40]) by smtp.gmail.com with ESMTPSA id c17-20020a170902d49100b00186a437f4d7sm2239489plg.147.2022.12.16.17.17.33 for (version=TLS1_3 cipher=TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 bits=256/256); Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:17:33 -0800 (PST) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2022 17:17:32 -0800 From: Alan Ianson To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Gaming on gentoo Message-Id: <20221216171732.22a5442fb4308c6b761d8201@gmail.com> In-Reply-To: References: <20221212211735.7b27d72cb9494f2c60cd5a79@gmail.com> <20221213003715.1394acd1790bdd78537c5078@gmail.com> <20221213042447.fec45ff12c611e2a865f269e@gmail.com> <20221213052545.ee106dd3176ebd3614dbbab9@gmail.com> <20221213054514.235e6fe13d775219b3c5c78b@gmail.com> <20221213062400.78ae784ee3d9530b3e55bd01@gmail.com> X-Mailer: Sylpheed 3.7.0 (GTK+ 2.24.33; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply Mime-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit X-Archives-Salt: f654e37b-6d49-42bc-a0cb-54afbafc1220 X-Archives-Hash: 88a00d71c9493c5391242a0ef7eb2e79 On Thu, 15 Dec 2022 19:06:07 +0000 Laurence Perkins wrote: > Note that some programs will dynamically load libraries at runtime, in addition to being linked against them at build time. These don’t necessarily show up in ldd. (Qt is horrible about this) Enabling core dumps or running under a debugger might shed some light on what’s going on. If that doesn’t work easily then check the project documentation to see if they have a special debugging workflow. Some game engines require a very specific debugging setup for the output to make any sense. One thing I notice that is different about Artur's setup and mine is that pulseaudio doesn't show up in his ldd output. I am just configuring a desktop without pulseaudio and see if that works any better. I think pulseaudio is worthwhile but I'll try without it and see how it goes.