From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 11018158011 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2021 14:52:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 979A9E09A4; Mon, 20 Sep 2021 14:52:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mailgate2.uni-hannover.de (mailgate2.uni-hannover.de [130.75.2.114]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-CHACHA20-POLY1305 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E6D94E0976 for ; Mon, 20 Sep 2021 14:52:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from intranet.aei.uni-hannover.de (ahin1.aei.uni-hannover.de [130.75.117.40]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by mailgate2.uni-hannover.de (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A9EA26DC; Mon, 20 Sep 2021 16:52:27 +0200 (CEST) Received: from comet2.terra.ger ([130.75.117.49]) by intranet.aei.uni-hannover.de (IBM Domino Release 9.0.1FP8) with ESMTP id 2021092016522616-176733 ; Mon, 20 Sep 2021 16:52:26 +0200 Date: Mon, 20 Sep 2021 16:52:03 +0200 From: Gerrit Kuehn To: Michael Cc: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] python, my nemesis Message-ID: <20210920165203.5aeb17c1@comet2.terra.ger> In-Reply-To: <2044997.OBFZWjSADL@lenovo.localdomain> References: <20210920145049.1ad40d93@comet2.terra.ger> <433d956b8fd9e0bbaba4596848094149110adf48.camel@gentoo.org> <20210920155646.027a276f@comet2.terra.ger> <2044997.OBFZWjSADL@lenovo.localdomain> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.33; amd64-portbld-freebsd12.1) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 X-MIMETrack: Itemize by SMTP Server on intranet/aei-hannover(Release 9.0.1FP8|February 23, 2017) at 20/09/2021 16:52:26, Serialize by Router on intranet/aei-hannover(Release 9.0.1FP8|February 23, 2017) at 20/09/2021 16:52:26, Serialize complete at 20/09/2021 16:52:26 X-TNEFEvaluated: 1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII X-Virus-Scanned: clamav-milter 0.102.4 at mailgate2 X-Virus-Status: Clean X-Archives-Salt: d0cc6e54-c7c3-43f5-bc24-ff63eacd8cfa X-Archives-Hash: a1d80e457d4b42e2b16760f1f1bf49c9 On Mon, 20 Sep 2021 15:29:30 +0100 Michael wrote: > With a year old system you should question if reinstalling your > system after a back up of configuration and data files would be a > smarter approach. If you *must* upgrade your current installation > for learning or as an experiment, then this is something which has > been done before. I know. I'm a happy Gentoo user for more than 20 years now. However, this is the master installation for a diskless setup providing the baseline for more than a dozen servers. Of course, I can still reinstall but this would be more work than just one machine + a few config files. As one year is not too terribly old (imho) and this looked like something that might be easily solved, I decided to ask for advice here first. > Personally, I'd back up /home /etc and world file, plus any databases > or websites if stored under /var/, then untar the latest stage 3 > tarball and update @system and @world. Just extracting stage3 over everything that is already there? > Overall it should be a *much* > faster approach to allow you to bring your installation up to date. Well, yeah, your mileage may vary. cu Gerrit