From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4E7F41382C5 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:54:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 75E312BC00A; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:54:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.digimed.co.uk (mail.digimed.co.uk [82.69.83.178]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1D463E0900 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:54:52 +0000 (UTC) Received: from digimed.co.uk (fenchurch.digimed.co.uk [192.168.1.6]) by mail.digimed.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E8A5766D87 for ; Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:54:50 +0000 (GMT) Date: Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:54:50 +0000 From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] override PYTHON_TARGETS to avoid a slot collision Message-ID: <20201219155450.00df95ff@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1ecc2885-173e-0cf9-3c78-becd87cf3e24@web.de> References: <361f9fda-9b2c-5e40-2b2e-28c35e52056b@web.de> <1864112.usQuhbGJ8B@lenovo.localdomain> <1ecc2885-173e-0cf9-3c78-becd87cf3e24@web.de> Organization: Digital Media Production X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.8 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7260 0F33 97EC 2F1E 7667 FE37 BA6E 1A97 4375 1903 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; boundary="Sig_/x/uYqXW4Rzmsq2mR15nLmca"; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; micalg=pgp-sha256 X-Archives-Salt: c5a86a4b-8798-4164-bf2c-37d73bad49f9 X-Archives-Hash: c1c76f072efd9a0d1dc88ad349a9113b --Sig_/x/uYqXW4Rzmsq2mR15nLmca Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 19 Dec 2020 15:11:34 +0100, n952162 wrote: > >> I don't think this output or any list participant has actually > >> identified where the problem here is. In my original posting, the > >> only difference causing the slot collision for jinja was that one > >> had a PYTHON_TARGETS of 3-7 and the other of 3-8. I asked how to > >> force it to the correct value, but if someone explained that to me, > >> I didn't understand it. =20 > > You have specified manually a number of python versions, you > > shouldn't have. =20 >=20 >=20 > Are you saying that long lists like this: >=20 > *"python3_8 python3_9 (-pypy3) -python3_6 -python3_7*" >=20 > are relics from improper or obsolete invocations made be me? >=20 > If so, how can I get rid of them? grep -ir python /etc/portage/package.use You shouldn't really have many, if any, specific settings for python_target. Comment out any you see and try again. > > 2. Clean your world file from any and all dependencies, libraries and > > packages you do not want to have explicitly installed. =20 >=20 >=20 > Yes, I receive that advice a lot.=C2=A0 If I were to follow it aggressive= ly, > there would only be a handful of files in my world file.=C2=A0 Will that > work? Absolutely. Remove anything you don't explicitly need then run depclean. If something shows in the list that you want to keep, add it back with emerge -n. =20 > I update the /etc/portage/package.use files by hand, so I get a feeling > for how it works.=C2=A0 Can it be that etc-update is a "smart system" that > does more than just that? Yes, read the docs, it merges the old and new configs. I prefer to use conf-update but all the config managers do much the same thing. > >> /Is there a fundamental goals issue here, when there's so much > >> incompatibility between python3_{6,7,8,9}? Do packages really need > >> to care? Are these versions so fundamentally different from each > >> other, and programmers rely on those differences? Or, is this > >> somebody's orderliness tic?/ It's also about where python modules are installed, but the main problem here appears to be that you are depending on obsolete and deprecated versions of python. --=20 Neil Bothwick What do you do when you see an endangered animal eating an endangered plant? --Sig_/x/uYqXW4Rzmsq2mR15nLmca Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEE8k9T/rX16EJxEKG692eFu0QSMJgFAl/eIkoACgkQ92eFu0QS MJhGqw/+I1J6qKVYy0C23Z4nuKZd7RPHB+HfODshG4Q9SZfDSn40P1QKJMt04Yk9 py7vraGvS8+lQwEk6v0aBbgrTc6yRWl0ESzxPZR/sgjWI0Ma8zx1ntxfl3R/Po07 MNr6KA2MjVGZhURYzvaf9lltjEMOUh/iAsCIk6Bohd0IxvqEUjS+Y1CQBiimNIN/ ojnRz/JLRrEvwNVfKW7USWlw2OcqgPEKLUjtF5arb1X4epV1BuYBt1h/P85FWCbt PGFB/DY89Fdauc2bz+pLQ/8TxKyENXNvdnufSs755GwqC7EMBVYZCQQhVD1BUXvM m30ip61Dhc17ATk4quIDycrghnsZ2PGf9uiCMJTNfVfO5kAdeon8gwKAQ/DRiFCg rsx+LPns4mwxoAOl0bGt8xVQ5uEmUe5pln67qw/4YTMFqHbJfU2LcTbdSPL3VFjP DZ8QM/wUhc2iwltgKmh4ux97njQZmPdpFbZMywianm3nmCzxwbpaIP1xUy+tBJlt /WXJpARN7BQEUA22JNYoS8O1SyltB//nLlPO5h4uS879kYbgLAJ+BBINaCWiTRmt Xu25kV/6/S8HFjfyeSmabbWn/hOh/no6vXF1P7GuR9trcTEHUxLu1kFfbConL2CH U+DUNabsrvO4D6joNcJF2rcDNOk9UIVEz06H6dJiQ1/JWaqaUYs= =65/A -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/x/uYqXW4Rzmsq2mR15nLmca--