From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-193268-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id CD650138359 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 07:55:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 8A385E08BB; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 07:55:41 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mail.suugaku.co.uk (unknown [IPv6:2a02:c7d:25f3:2800:c68:8688:e93c:2aa2]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 264BAE081B for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 10 Oct 2020 07:55:40 +0000 (UTC) DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=simple/simple; d=suugaku.co.uk; s=mail; t=1602316739; bh=Lbegf/xffd8KO4ArEebqLvNh3fP8vvBFyqMbpU2d8Us=; h=Date:From:To:Subject:References:In-Reply-To; b=cDV/VPQ4adHZqqlzQ3xpc0NUyDIZPI/C9FSBRU7pDaoVn6FVA3IxGem9G1FtZFc/7 pHWl91pGB6Dp6NSGNQz0PYYY9G792G13wJOooWwOqoQYADkZVUANRDrviEKvBroQD+ WB8qQFUVJon2AyX935CDackmwvPFpw+GA3KlNxmk= Date: Sat, 10 Oct 2020 08:53:37 +0100 From: Ashley Dixon <ash@suugaku.co.uk> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Multilib ABI specific CPU use flags? Message-ID: <20201010075337.qc322tbldituid7i@ad-gentoo-main> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-PGP-Key: fp="2A9A DA96 8A7B A30E F290 4117 D18A B0D2 BF25 A8AA"; id="0xBF25A8AA"; get=<http://suugaku.co.uk/pubkey.asc>; get=<hkp://pgp.mit.edu/pks/lookup?search=0xD18AB0D2BF25A8AA&op=get> X-Operating-System: Linux ad-gentoo-main 5.4.60-gentoo X-Editor: vim 8.2 References: <b5d38ae5-5000-c75f-763e-4a81ab3a1df1@gmail.com> <20201008154045.xxnqw6gz26kibopv@ad-gentoo-main> <76048102-ff3e-790f-151c-4cb0af266bd7@gmail.com> <20201009092756.mq5absezaoinzugf@ad-gentoo-main> <0d8565f9-97e1-1e39-23b6-e8bb1786b776@gmail.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="npeawgckjoowjfut" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <0d8565f9-97e1-1e39-23b6-e8bb1786b776@gmail.com> X-Archives-Salt: d80ef0cf-7793-47b6-aa54-f1aa42eda536 X-Archives-Hash: a655936db6ecf6e8260ab9582bcb344e --npeawgckjoowjfut Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, Oct 10, 2020 at 03:47:42AM +0000, Jonathan Yong wrote: > The notion that I am unable to fix a problem myself, on a system that I o= wn, > because of some technicality, even as a temporary measure is disconcertin= g. > Controlling every piece of how a software is configured, built and instal= led > is why I love Gentoo's portage system so much. We cannot possibly be expected to have the knowledge to fix every single = issue which might arise on our systems. Linux, and Gentoo in particular, is grea= t due to the freedom it offers. Just because you do not know how to fix a pr= oblem immediately, does not mean you cannot learn. I would be more disconcerted if I was using a Windows or iOS system, in = which the vendor(s) intentionally take steps to prevent users from fixing t= ricky problems like these, delegating the responsibility to their techni= cally incompetent front-line support teams. A lack of hand-holding and pres= umed- ability is not a need for concern, but more of an opportunity to grow. P.S. Do you know you're sending most messages twice, one signed, and one = not? --=20 Ashley Dixon suugaku.co.uk 2A9A 4117 DA96 D18A 8A7B B0D2 A30E BF25 F290 A8AA --npeawgckjoowjfut Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAABCAAdFiEEKpralop7ow7ykEEX0Yqw0r8lqKoFAl+BaIEACgkQ0Yqw0r8l qKqpqg//ToLkbWxYCai0UAlQNl/tUoPznBWJ3BW9rugqU17ZjkoIOqQjqGJNSDiC smoVCmQfCQqlae1rqrCGQXeuBdmJdPf0oIJE7odcQQLdPAmcxODNAebIw8Tc0ceG f8QUKjwjolDf1Wf0QEEXBNhGzMbWE30NnqCFX2bHAmoAEsuWNSB0+qUQOa/zXWv1 EEjsNTBocSK1kqunHXY3UyQYYOB7n2dJCIIuUc+8pvHl/Pdyfts/1qPUfBynq1uG zHxIokV8TxhHsOuBwzsqGmHOrg+YeY+oBb5R6V38/I3fs45rKI+BXjOsBwFwRwNn coFSxwjp4GpJ7rptuLiKty7rAArDS894dt0AJ6+H3NST60QVyRGgE9u2EZcLZH7e r+m/r6IT/5holVPwGdM7q0gXHgU9JEDh+qYj8pt1hE7rupRcE5dIJJJFdVlq5P7p zeqauEsqswZY1/tSGp+ARoAAU4hdKbE7x0wWo451PLwxybQ1AGgIffaf2ElbkI8s vNiAf0MG/KKxQDG7ffgv+ViTqdsy/hrZwjVZYk4krSH4AYBEYN9dIPg91O3kbOmw kLaaZP6RcJcjqqE2kfLSoIMLx40n3yaqRWsGbjkIBklD8+agI+9hFfhWibn3YyZg XOFkK/sy0IphEqEvMkrBGMzZP7u4ihA89YClwmlxNHOd/pgEtWk= =O6+m -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --npeawgckjoowjfut--