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From: Ashley Dixon <ash@suugaku.co.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?!
Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2020 17:04:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20200720160417.ghdgu5irtji2hk5t@ad-gentoo-main> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20200720163605.3f54a0d9@digimed.co.uk>

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On Mon, Jul 20, 2020 at 04:36:05PM +0100, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> i don't think that's the issue. The problem is that the man pages are not
> included in the upstream package, only the source for them. So if you
> want to be able to RTFM, you need a load of dependencies.

Perhaps a solution from upstream would be to distribute a simplified  groff  man
page  with  the  program,  and  then  the  package  managers  could  enable  the
documentation requiring Sphinx only when the `doc` flag is set.

It seems like pre-9.16 versions distributed a lot of basic man pages for all the
various tools [1]. These have disappeared in recent versions.

$ find bind-9.14.12/ -regextype sed -regex "^.*[a-zA-Z][^0-9]*\.[0-9]$" -type f

bind-9.14.12/bin/dnssec/dnssec-dsfromkey.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/dnssec/dnssec-verify.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/dnssec/dnssec-importkey.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/dnssec/dnssec-keygen.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/dnssec/dnssec-revoke.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/dnssec/dnssec-cds.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/dnssec/dnssec-signzone.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/dnssec/dnssec-keyfromlabel.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/dnssec/dnssec-settime.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/delv/delv.1
bind-9.14.12/bin/tests/system/checkconf/dnssec.3
bind-9.14.12/bin/tests/system/checkconf/dnssec.2
bind-9.14.12/bin/tests/system/checkconf/dnssec.1
bind-9.14.12/bin/tests/system/statschannel/traffic.expect.5
bind-9.14.12/bin/tests/system/statschannel/traffic.expect.6
bind-9.14.12/bin/tests/system/statschannel/traffic.expect.2
bind-9.14.12/bin/tests/system/statschannel/traffic.expect.4
bind-9.14.12/bin/tests/system/statschannel/traffic.expect.1
bind-9.14.12/bin/tests/system/addzone/ns2/redirect.db.1
bind-9.14.12/bin/tests/system/addzone/ns2/redirect.db.2
bind-9.14.12/bin/tests/system/addzone/ns1/redirect.db.1
bind-9.14.12/bin/tests/system/addzone/ns1/redirect.db.2
bind-9.14.12/bin/tests/system/addzone/ns3/redirect.db.1
bind-9.14.12/bin/tests/system/addzone/ns3/redirect.db.2
bind-9.14.12/bin/confgen/ddns-confgen.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/confgen/rndc-confgen.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/named/named.conf.5
bind-9.14.12/bin/named/named.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/python/dnssec-checkds.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/python/dnssec-keymgr.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/python/dnssec-coverage.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/dig/host.1
bind-9.14.12/bin/dig/dig.1
bind-9.14.12/bin/dig/nslookup.1
bind-9.14.12/bin/check/named-checkzone.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/check/named-checkconf.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/tools/named-journalprint.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/tools/mdig.1
bind-9.14.12/bin/tools/dnstap-read.1
bind-9.14.12/bin/tools/named-rrchecker.1
bind-9.14.12/bin/tools/nsec3hash.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/tools/arpaname.1
bind-9.14.12/bin/tools/named-nzd2nzf.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/plugins/filter-aaaa.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/nsupdate/nsupdate.1
bind-9.14.12/bin/pkcs11/pkcs11-keygen.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/pkcs11/pkcs11-tokens.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/pkcs11/pkcs11-list.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/pkcs11/pkcs11-destroy.8
bind-9.14.12/bin/rndc/rndc.conf.5
bind-9.14.12/bin/rndc/rndc.8
bind-9.14.12/isc-config.sh.1

$ find bind-9.16.4/ -regextype sed -regex "^.*[a-zA-Z][^0-9]*\.[0-9]$" -type f

bind-9.16.4/bin/tests/system/checkconf/dnssec.3
bind-9.16.4/bin/tests/system/checkconf/dnssec.2
bind-9.16.4/bin/tests/system/checkconf/dnssec.1
bind-9.16.4/bin/tests/system/statschannel/traffic.expect.5
bind-9.16.4/bin/tests/system/statschannel/traffic.expect.6
bind-9.16.4/bin/tests/system/statschannel/traffic.expect.2
bind-9.16.4/bin/tests/system/statschannel/traffic.expect.4
bind-9.16.4/bin/tests/system/statschannel/traffic.expect.1
bind-9.16.4/bin/tests/system/addzone/ns2/redirect.db.1
bind-9.16.4/bin/tests/system/addzone/ns2/redirect.db.2
bind-9.16.4/bin/tests/system/addzone/ns1/redirect.db.1
bind-9.16.4/bin/tests/system/addzone/ns1/redirect.db.2
bind-9.16.4/bin/tests/system/addzone/ns3/redirect.db.1
bind-9.16.4/bin/tests/system/addzone/ns3/redirect.db.2

[1] https://downloads.isc.org/isc/bind9/9.14.12/bind-9.14.12.tar.gz

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Ashley Dixon
suugaku.co.uk

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  reply	other threads:[~2020-07-20 16:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2020-07-20 14:39 [gentoo-user] dns/bind-tools 9.14 -> 9.16 pulling in 17 new dependencies?! Grant Edwards
2020-07-20 14:52 ` Ashley Dixon
2020-07-20 15:20   ` Neil Bothwick
2020-07-20 15:31     ` Alarig Le Lay
2020-07-20 15:36       ` Neil Bothwick
2020-07-20 16:04         ` Ashley Dixon [this message]
2020-07-20 16:07       ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-07-21 13:08         ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2020-07-21 14:40           ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-07-21 14:47           ` Neil Bothwick
2020-07-21 15:03             ` Grant Edwards
2020-07-21 15:06               ` Neil Bothwick
2020-07-21 15:23             ` Peter Humphrey
2020-07-21 16:00               ` Grant Edwards
2020-07-21 17:15                 ` Grant Edwards
2020-07-22  1:30                 ` Walter Dnes
2020-07-22  1:39                   ` Ashley Dixon
2020-07-22  2:29                   ` Grant Edwards
2020-07-22  3:21                     ` Ashley Dixon
2020-07-22 13:25                       ` Grant Edwards
2020-07-22 13:42                         ` Walter Dnes
2020-07-22  4:40                     ` Walter Dnes
2020-07-22 13:27                       ` Grant Edwards
2020-07-23  5:02                 ` Michael Orlitzky
2020-07-22  8:46               ` Peter Humphrey
2020-07-22 13:59                 ` Walter Dnes
2020-07-22 15:13                   ` Peter Humphrey
2020-07-23  5:45                     ` Walter Dnes
2020-07-23  6:17                       ` Ashley Dixon
2020-07-23  7:59                       ` Peter Humphrey
2020-07-23 14:18                       ` Wols Lists

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