[gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?

[gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?

[Caveman Al Toraboran]

if i exec: "emerge -avDuNt --quiet-build=y @world":

    > These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
    >
    > Calculating dependencies... done!
    >
    > The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
    >  (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
    > #
    > >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 -python_targets_python2_7
    >
    > Would you like to add these changes to your config files? [Yes/No]

so >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 doesn't want
python_targets_python2_7.  let's remove it then by
adding:

    >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 -python_targets_python2_7

into: /etc/portage/package.use/stuff

but then i get this:

    > The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
    >  (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
    > # required by dev-python/m2r-0.2.1::gentoo[-test]
    > # required by dev-python/automat-20.2.0::gentoo
    > # required by dev-python/twisted-20.3.0::gentoo
    > # required by www-servers/tornado-6.0.4::gentoo
    > # required by dev-python/ipykernel-5.1.4::gentoo[-test]
    > # required by dev-python/ipyparallel-6.2.3::gentoo
    > # required by dev-python/ipython-7.5.0::gentoo[smp]
    > # required by @selected
    > # required by @world (argument)
    > >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 python_targets_python2_7
    >
    > Would you like to add these changes to your config files? [Yes/No]

which i guess means that docutils wants py2.7.


any idea how to handle this situation?

Re: [gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?

[Ashley Dixon]

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On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 09:24:39PM +0000, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
> if i exec: "emerge -avDuNt --quiet-build=y @world":
> 
>     > These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
>     >
>     > Calculating dependencies... done!
>     >
>     > The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
>     >  (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
>     > #
>     > >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 -python_targets_python2_7
>     >
>     > Would you like to add these changes to your config files? [Yes/No]
> 
> so >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 doesn't want
> python_targets_python2_7.  let's remove it then by
> adding:
> 
>     >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 -python_targets_python2_7
> 
> into: /etc/portage/package.use/stuff
> 
> but then i get this:
> 
>     > The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
>     >  (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
>     > # required by dev-python/m2r-0.2.1::gentoo[-test]
>     > # required by dev-python/automat-20.2.0::gentoo
>     > # required by dev-python/twisted-20.3.0::gentoo
>     > # required by www-servers/tornado-6.0.4::gentoo
>     > # required by dev-python/ipykernel-5.1.4::gentoo[-test]
>     > # required by dev-python/ipyparallel-6.2.3::gentoo
>     > # required by dev-python/ipython-7.5.0::gentoo[smp]
>     > # required by @selected
>     > # required by @world (argument)
>     > >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 python_targets_python2_7
>     >
>     > Would you like to add these changes to your config files? [Yes/No]
> 
> which i guess means that docutils wants py2.7.

I can't replicate this at all. Could you post (attach, compress if necessary)
your `emerge --info docutils` ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?

[Caveman Al Toraboran]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 1:43 AM, Ashley Dixon <ash@suugaku.co.uk> wrote:

> I can't replicate this at all. Could you post (attach, compress if necessary)
> your `emerge --info docutils` ?

Thanks a lot for your time.  Highly appreciated.


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dev-python/docutils-0.16::gentoo was built with the following:
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Re: [gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?

[Ashley Dixon]

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On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 11:38:33PM +0000, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
> =================================================================
>                         Package Settings
> =================================================================
> 
> dev-python/docutils-0.16::gentoo was built with the following:
> USE="" ABI_X86="(64)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python3_7 -pypy3 -python2_7 -python3_6
>       -python3_8 -python3_9"

This is confusing me.

At some point, you had docutils, ipython, and m2r built without docutils  having
PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7", and there is no requirement in the ebuild of ipython
to mandate that. m2r requires `dev-python/docutils[${PYTHON_USEDEP}]`, however I
doubt that PYTHON_USEDEP would expand to a hard requirement on python2_7.

In fact, every single package from  your  original  message---quoted  below  for
convenience---supports versions greater than 2.7.

On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 09:24:39PM +0000, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
> # required by dev-python/m2r-0.2.1::gentoo[-test]
> # required by dev-python/automat-20.2.0::gentoo
> # required by dev-python/twisted-20.3.0::gentoo
> # required by www-servers/tornado-6.0.4::gentoo
> # required by dev-python/ipykernel-5.1.4::gentoo[-test]
> # required by dev-python/ipyparallel-6.2.3::gentoo
> # required by dev-python/ipython-7.5.0::gentoo[smp]
> # required by @selected
> # required by @world (argument)
> >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 python_targets_python2_7

Just to be explicit, try updating  @world  with  `USE="-python_targets_python2_7
python_targets_python3_6"  <emerge  command>`.   I  assume  that  the  currently
installed version of ipython also has the [smp] USE-flag ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?

[Caveman Al Toraboran]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 4:20 AM, Ashley Dixon <ash@suugaku.co.uk> wrote:

> installed version of ipython also has the [smp] USE-flag ?

yeah.  added -smp for ipython, and the circle is
gone.  looks problem is solved for now.

(i hope i'm not missing much for having ipython
with -smp)

thanks a lot!  i highly appreciate your help and
time.

Re: [gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?

[Ashley Dixon]

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On Fri, Jun 05, 2020 at 12:54:08AM +0000, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
> (i hope i'm not missing much for having ipython with -smp)

Well, you might be, depending on how much load you place on it, and how much you
care about squeezing out the maximum amount of performance  *.   From  use.desc:

        smp - Enable support for multiprocessors or multicore systems

The fact that smp causes the unfortunate circle of pain tells us that it is  one
of the following packages, or their dependencies, is problematic:

	smp? (
		>=dev-python/ipykernel-5.1.0[${PYTHON_USEDEP}]
		>=dev-python/ipyparallel-6.2.3[${PYTHON_USEDEP}]
	)"

Do you currently have either of these packages installed ?

* I don't use any of the involved packages, so I'm only guessing here.   Perhaps
someone with greater knowledge of Python on Gentoo could shed some light on this
topic.  It might be worth contacting Michał (mgorny) if no one here  can  derive
the source of this issue.

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Re: [gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?

[Caveman Al Toraboran]

On Friday, June 5, 2020 5:08 AM, Ashley Dixon <ash@suugaku.co.uk> wrote:

> smp? (
> >=dev-python/ipykernel-5.1.0[${PYTHON_USEDEP}]
>
>     	>=dev-python/ipyparallel-6.2.3[${PYTHON_USEDEP}]
>
>     )"
>
>
> Do you currently have either of these packages installed ?

yes, but gone by --depclean (probably after -smp).
both were with python targets 3_7.

Re: [gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?

[Dale]

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Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
> if i exec: "emerge -avDuNt --quiet-build=y @world":
>
>     > These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
>     >
>     > Calculating dependencies... done!
>     >
>     > The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
>     >  (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
>     > #
>     > >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 -python_targets_python2_7
>     >
>     > Would you like to add these changes to your config files? [Yes/No]
>
> so >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 doesn't want
> python_targets_python2_7.  let's remove it then by
> adding:
>
>     >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 -python_targets_python2_7
>
> into: /etc/portage/package.use/stuff
>
> but then i get this:
>
>     > The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
>     >  (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
>     > # required by dev-python/m2r-0.2.1::gentoo[-test]
>     > # required by dev-python/automat-20.2.0::gentoo
>     > # required by dev-python/twisted-20.3.0::gentoo
>     > # required by www-servers/tornado-6.0.4::gentoo
>     > # required by dev-python/ipykernel-5.1.4::gentoo[-test]
>     > # required by dev-python/ipyparallel-6.2.3::gentoo
>     > # required by dev-python/ipython-7.5.0::gentoo[smp]
>     > # required by @selected
>     > # required by @world (argument)
>     > >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 python_targets_python2_7
>     >
>     > Would you like to add these changes to your config files? [Yes/No]
>
> which i guess means that docutils wants py2.7.
>
>
> any idea how to handle this situation?
>
>
>


That is sort of a circular problem.  It doesn't want it, then it does. 
Thoughts?  Could it be that one of the other packages is still using
py2.7 and it needs to be disabled for them as well?  I would think
emerge would catch that and tell you that is what it needs but maybe
not.  It may not even be something you can toggle with a USE flag for
some reason. 

That's the only thing I can think of at the moment.  Maybe someone else
has a idea or it will hit me while I'm killing weeds in the garden.  You
know how it is.  You think about something when you are doing something
else.  lol 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 04 Jun 2020 21:24:39 +0000, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:

> if i exec: "emerge -avDuNt --quiet-build=y @world":
> 
>     > These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
>     >
>     > Calculating dependencies... done!
>     >
>     > The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
>     >  (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
>     > #  
>     > >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 -python_targets_python2_7  
>     >
>     > Would you like to add these changes to your config files?
>     > [Yes/No]  
> 
> so >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 doesn't want
> python_targets_python2_7.  let's remove it then by
> adding:
> 
>     >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 -python_targets_python2_7  
> 
> into: /etc/portage/package.use/stuff
> 
> but then i get this:
> 
>     > The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
>     >  (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
>     > # required by dev-python/m2r-0.2.1::gentoo[-test]
>     > # required by dev-python/automat-20.2.0::gentoo
>     > # required by dev-python/twisted-20.3.0::gentoo
>     > # required by www-servers/tornado-6.0.4::gentoo
>     > # required by dev-python/ipykernel-5.1.4::gentoo[-test]
>     > # required by dev-python/ipyparallel-6.2.3::gentoo
>     > # required by dev-python/ipython-7.5.0::gentoo[smp]
>     > # required by @selected
>     > # required by @world (argument)  
>     > >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 python_targets_python2_7  
>     >
>     > Would you like to add these changes to your config files?
>     > [Yes/No]  
> 
> which i guess means that docutils wants py2.7.
> 
> 
> any idea how to handle this situation?

Allow portage to add the changes to your config, then run etc-update or
equivalent. When portage adds package.use changes, it also adds comments
showing what requires those changes. With that information, you should be
able to see which package is causing this.


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Re: [gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?

[Dale]

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Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 04 Jun 2020 21:24:39 +0000, Caveman Al Toraboran wrote:
>
>> if i exec: "emerge -avDuNt --quiet-build=y @world":
>>
>>     > These are the packages that would be merged, in reverse order:
>>     >
>>     > Calculating dependencies... done!
>>     >
>>     > The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
>>     >  (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
>>     > #  
>>     > >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 -python_targets_python2_7  
>>     >
>>     > Would you like to add these changes to your config files?
>>     > [Yes/No]  
>>
>> so >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 doesn't want
>> python_targets_python2_7.  let's remove it then by
>> adding:
>>
>>     >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 -python_targets_python2_7  
>>
>> into: /etc/portage/package.use/stuff
>>
>> but then i get this:
>>
>>     > The following USE changes are necessary to proceed:
>>     >  (see "package.use" in the portage(5) man page for more details)
>>     > # required by dev-python/m2r-0.2.1::gentoo[-test]
>>     > # required by dev-python/automat-20.2.0::gentoo
>>     > # required by dev-python/twisted-20.3.0::gentoo
>>     > # required by www-servers/tornado-6.0.4::gentoo
>>     > # required by dev-python/ipykernel-5.1.4::gentoo[-test]
>>     > # required by dev-python/ipyparallel-6.2.3::gentoo
>>     > # required by dev-python/ipython-7.5.0::gentoo[smp]
>>     > # required by @selected
>>     > # required by @world (argument)  
>>     > >=dev-python/docutils-0.16 python_targets_python2_7  
>>     >
>>     > Would you like to add these changes to your config files?
>>     > [Yes/No]  
>>
>> which i guess means that docutils wants py2.7.
>>
>>
>> any idea how to handle this situation?
> Allow portage to add the changes to your config, then run etc-update or
> equivalent. When portage adds package.use changes, it also adds comments
> showing what requires those changes. With that information, you should be
> able to see which package is causing this.
>
>


One of us is reading that wrong.  Given my eyes, maybe it is me.  My new
glasses should be in within the next week or so.  In the first instance,
it wants py2.7 disabled.  So he adds it to the config file to disable
it.  When he runs the command again, it wants to enable py2.7 for the
same package and version.  If I'm reading that right, even if he lets
emerge add the change, it will lead to two problems.  One, there will be
one line enabling py2.7 and another line disabling it.  If I recall
correctly, emerge will take the last one.  Two, he will be back to the
first problem, it wanting py2.7 disabled.  In other words, back where he
started. 

Am I reading that wrong or something?? 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?

[Ashley Dixon]

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On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 05:31:29PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > Allow portage to add the changes to your config, then run etc-update or
> > equivalent. When portage adds package.use changes, it also adds comments
> > showing what requires those changes. With that information, you should be
> > able to see which package is causing this.
> 
> One of us is reading that wrong.  Given my eyes, maybe it is me.  My new
> glasses should be in within the next week or so.  In the first instance,
> it wants py2.7 disabled.  So he adds it to the config file to disable
> it.  When he runs the command again, it wants to enable py2.7 for the
> same package and version.  If I'm reading that right, even if he lets
> emerge add the change, it will lead to two problems.  One, there will be
> one line enabling py2.7 and another line disabling it.  If I recall
> correctly, emerge will take the last one.  Two, he will be back to the
> first problem, it wanting py2.7 disabled.  In other words, back where he
> started. 
> 
> Am I reading that wrong or something?? 

Providing he's just adding the line to a package.use file with  a  text  editor,
that's just manually doing the work of etc-update.  We need the  `emerge  --info
docutils` output to see full information about his Python environment.

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Re: [gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?

[Dale]

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Ashley Dixon wrote:
> On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 05:31:29PM -0500, Dale wrote:
>> Neil Bothwick wrote:
>>> Allow portage to add the changes to your config, then run etc-update or
>>> equivalent. When portage adds package.use changes, it also adds comments
>>> showing what requires those changes. With that information, you should be
>>> able to see which package is causing this.
>> One of us is reading that wrong.  Given my eyes, maybe it is me.  My new
>> glasses should be in within the next week or so.  In the first instance,
>> it wants py2.7 disabled.  So he adds it to the config file to disable
>> it.  When he runs the command again, it wants to enable py2.7 for the
>> same package and version.  If I'm reading that right, even if he lets
>> emerge add the change, it will lead to two problems.  One, there will be
>> one line enabling py2.7 and another line disabling it.  If I recall
>> correctly, emerge will take the last one.  Two, he will be back to the
>> first problem, it wanting py2.7 disabled.  In other words, back where he
>> started. 
>>
>> Am I reading that wrong or something?? 
> Providing he's just adding the line to a package.use file with  a  text  editor,
> that's just manually doing the work of etc-update.  We need the  `emerge  --info
> docutils` output to see full information about his Python environment.
>

True but it asks for one thing, then when it is done, it asks for it to
be undone.  I agree something is off somewhere but I'm not sure using
etc-update is going to matter.  I do my edits manually as well and
rarely use etc-update and friends.  Whether done manually or with the
tool, the result is the same.  The comments it will add to those files
are listed in the outputs above.  I don't think that is going to shed
any new light on the problem either.

Seeing the output of emerge --info for that package may shed some light
on the problem but allowing etc-update to change the config isn't going
to help.  It's in one of its circular problems that comes from something
else. 

Maybe we will get more info shortly. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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Re: [gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?

[Ashley Dixon]

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On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 05:56:04PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> Seeing the output of emerge --info for that package may shed some light
> on the problem but allowing etc-update to change the config isn't going
> to help.  It's in one of its circular problems that comes from something
> else. 
> 
> Maybe we will get more info shortly. 

Are you able to replicate this problem, attempting to install all the  mentioned
packages with the --pretend option  and  USE="-python_targets_python2_7" ?  I've
been trying various things for about  half-an-hour  and  still  can't  see  this
behaviour on my own machine.

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RE: [gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?

[Sean O'Myers]

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I know this off the subject  but could you tell me where I can buy Gentoo I
Try buying one from Amzon.com the cd was Fragmented

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On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 05:56:04PM -0500, Dale wrote:
> Seeing the output of emerge --info for that package may shed some light
> on the problem but allowing etc-update to change the config isn't going
> to help.  It's in one of its circular problems that comes from something
> else.
>
> Maybe we will get more info shortly.

Are you able to replicate this problem, attempting to install all the  mentioned
packages with the --pretend option  and  USE="-python_targets_python2_7" ?  I've
been trying various things for about  half-an-hour  and  still  can't  see  this
behaviour on my own machine.

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Re: [OT] [gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?

[Ashley Dixon]

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On Thu, Jun 04, 2020 at 11:39:43PM +0000, Sean O'Myers wrote:
> I know this off the subject  but could you tell me where I can buy Gentoo I
> Try buying one from Amzon.com the cd was Fragmented

If you absolutely _cannot_ download it from the Internet, you could look at  [1]
to see if there's any stores which sell a CD.  A lot of  them  have  been  taken
off-line in the past five years due to a  lack  of  demand,  but  you  may  find
something somewhere.

If you can't find anything in the next couple of days, then remind me  and  I'll
burn a disc for you containing all of the required  files  for  a  basic  system
and send it to your physical location.

Please continue this conversation off-list.

[1] https://gentoo.org/inside-gentoo/stores/

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Re: [gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 23:42:50 +0100, Ashley Dixon wrote:

> Providing he's just adding the line to a package.use file with  a  text
>  editor, that's just manually doing the work of etc-update.  We need
> the  `emerge  --info docutils` output to see full information about his
> Python environment.

Except that etc-update also adds a backtrace as comments, allowing him to
trace the cause.


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Re: [gentoo-user] docutils needing py2.7, but not wanting py2.7?

[Dale]

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Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Thu, 4 Jun 2020 23:42:50 +0100, Ashley Dixon wrote:
>
>> Providing he's just adding the line to a package.use file with  a  text
>>  editor, that's just manually doing the work of etc-update.  We need
>> the  `emerge  --info docutils` output to see full information about his
>> Python environment.
> Except that etc-update also adds a backtrace as comments, allowing him to
> trace the cause.
>
>

That backtrace is in the OP's original post.  The first one doesn't give
much of one, none really.  The second one gives a list of packages. 
Either way, it was a circular problem.  It seems the emerge --info for
the package gave the clue which I don't see anywhere in the output of
emerge. 

Dale

:-)  :-) 

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