From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD8F5138350 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:36:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D8168E0D25; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:35:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from forward106p.mail.yandex.net (forward106p.mail.yandex.net [77.88.28.109]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 5EAF4E0D13 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 15:35:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mxback28g.mail.yandex.net (mxback28g.mail.yandex.net [IPv6:2a02:6b8:0:1472:2741:0:8b7:328]) by forward106p.mail.yandex.net (Yandex) with ESMTP id 84CF81C809B0 for ; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 18:35:52 +0300 (MSK) Received: from sas8-6bf5c5d991b2.qloud-c.yandex.net (sas8-6bf5c5d991b2.qloud-c.yandex.net [2a02:6b8:c1b:2a1f:0:640:6bf5:c5d9]) by mxback28g.mail.yandex.net (mxback/Yandex) with ESMTP id v9lYrwIse9-ZqgiHCNa; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 18:35:52 +0300 DKIM-Signature: v=1; a=rsa-sha256; c=relaxed/relaxed; d=yandex.ru; s=mail; t=1587656152; bh=5uvyinbX+I9VkNEZbc2qwPuqPN4k5sSLCVK6XwOF9H4=; h=In-Reply-To:Subject:To:From:References:Date:Message-ID; b=EfRJhdoF7G0I7qcG5xQfsWS6PYii9FFO0i0Fo3pO1hDEhET9r4Ed1Irye2tBqKvJ1 A02ZayEsGN8lL6lX9OX4m79BisF2p3jHsozwUh+MJT36J8508oEzaOY86rgyFuzaG3 yxu3XcBsAzlnAeLRhQj1SYzCE1iSzA+RbuTyx2kQ= Authentication-Results: mxback28g.mail.yandex.net; dkim=pass header.i=@yandex.ru Received: by sas8-6bf5c5d991b2.qloud-c.yandex.net (smtp/Yandex) with ESMTPSA id B2hPiDLFTd-ZqXerVE7; Thu, 23 Apr 2020 18:35:52 +0300 (using TLSv1.3 with cipher TLS_AES_256_GCM_SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (Client certificate not present) Date: Thu, 23 Apr 2020 18:37:00 +0300 From: lego12239@yandex.ru To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Is Gentoo dead? Message-ID: <20200423153700.GA29048@legohost> References: <20200422180825.GA12885@legohost> <82271c88-bd0f-aa50-8155-e7028305e0ef@gentoo.org> <20200423085252.GE16612@legohost> <170d8de8-b773-6c3d-52af-12aabacde269@gmail.com> <20200423092608.GB18636@legohost> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.12.1 (2019-06-15) X-Archives-Salt: 4eb8848f-9b6c-4ab7-a0e8-b420954d628e X-Archives-Hash: 284d0db967f9e798c10d1e82b9831632 On Thu, Apr 23, 2020 at 05:20:23PM +0200, J. Roeleveld wrote: > On 23 April 2020 11:26:08 CEST, lego12239@yandex.ru wrote: > >I know about it. I didn't understand why in usual case we need to > >do everytime emerge -e, instead of emerge -uND. But if we talk about os > >developer - it's clear(but why *everytime* emerge -e?). > > Because normal emerge ends up being similar to an "emerge -e" if everything is statically linked as everything needs to be rebuild, not just the dependencies. I understand. But why we talk about "emerge -e", if we don't talk about "everything is statically linked", just about some packages, concretely - portage. And i don't think that "emerge -uND == emerge -e" even if everything is statically linked and some package like openssl is changed. Yes, this is larger packages set, than with dynamic linking, but not all. But in any case it doesn't matter, because nobody talk about "everything is statically linked". -- Олег Неманов (Oleg Nemanov)