From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 96FC6138350 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 17:15:47 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 85E2AE0FF1; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 17:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from very.loosely.org (very.loosely.org [173.255.215.69]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 37BA0E0FD6 for ; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 17:15:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([127.0.0.1]:54384 helo=foolinux.mooo.com) by ahiker.mooo.com with esmtp (Exim 4.93.0.4-246-de4b4accb) (envelope-from ) id 1jRIyI-0004ps-87 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:15:38 -0700 Date: Wed, 22 Apr 2020 10:15:31 -0700 From: Ian Zimmerman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: gentoo accessibility re i'm blind, Message-ID: <20200422171531.m3ywnx3jjvljnhd6@matica> References: <20200422122821.wrlfwx66li2zgcd7@ad-gentoo-main.Home> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20200422122821.wrlfwx66li2zgcd7@ad-gentoo-main.Home> X-Loosely-ASN: 4294967295 X-Archives-Salt: a90cde9d-8c06-43be-943c-11e94e73d071 X-Archives-Hash: 98e620d161f8fb5d9e9e4360129d4eb6 On 2020-04-22 13:28, Ashley Dixon wrote: > This is the ONE situation under which I would recommend GNOME, as it > is generally the best with built-in accessibility features [3]. I don't know about that. Mouse Keys was broken for at least 2 Fedora releases (it would do the moves but not the clicks) and my bug about that was handled in the typical GNOME/Fedora fashion, ie. ignored until they could close it with reference to the next version. > lot of the more niche W.M.s (such as i3) require an incredible amount > of tinkering (and often changes to the code-base) to introduce any > sort of considering for accessibility. Maybe wrt visual handicaps you are right, but wrt keyboard access to everything that "normal" users do with the mouse, I violently disagree. I use bspwm now and it is the _very best_ interface I ever had, freeing me from the authoritarian rodent for hours at a time. -- Ian