[gentoo-user] sneak peek at next update.

[gentoo-user] sneak peek at next update.

[Alan Grimes]

I'm still as much as 3 months away from having spare CPU time, right now 
the next update is looking **BAD**:



tortoise ~ # emerge --update --verbose portage --backtrack=30 
--verbose-conflicts --pretend

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild???????? U?? ] sys-apps/portage-2.3.76::gentoo [2.3.65::gentoo] 
USE="(ipc) native-extensions rsync-verify xattr -build -doc -epydoc 
-gentoo-dev (-selinux)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_6 python3_7 
-pypy -python3_5" 1,010 KiB
[blocks B?????????? ] <app-portage/gentoolkit-0.4.6 
("<app-portage/gentoolkit-0.4.6" is blocking sys-apps/portage-2.3.76)

Total: 1 package (1 upgrade), Size of downloads: 1,010 KiB
Conflict: 1 block (1 unsatisfied)

 ??* Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be
 ??* installed at the same time on the same system.

 ?? (app-portage/gentoolkit-0.4.3:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by
 ?????? app-portage/gentoolkit required by @selected

 ?? (sys-apps/portage-2.3.76:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) 
pulled in by
 ?????? sys-apps/portage required by 
(app-admin/perl-cleaner-2.27:0/0::gentoo, installed)
sys-apps/portage[python_targets_pypy(-)?,python_targets_python2_7(-)?,python_targets_python3_5(-)?,python_targets_python3_6(-)?,python_targets_python3_7(-)?,-python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] 
(sys-apps/portage[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),python_targets_python3_7(-),-python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)]) 
required by (app-portage/layman-2.4.2-r2:0/0::gentoo, installed)
 ?????? portage
 ?????? sys-apps/portage required by @selected
 ?????? sys-apps/portage required by 
(virtual/package-manager-1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
sys-apps/portage[python_targets_python2_7(-)?,python_targets_python3_5(-)?,python_targets_python3_6(-)?,python_targets_python3_7(-)?,-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] 
(sys-apps/portage[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),python_targets_python3_7(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)]) 
required by (dev-java/java-config-2.2.0-r4:2/2::gentoo, installed)
sys-apps/portage[python_targets_python2_7(-),python_targets_python3_6(-),python_targets_python3_7(-),-python_single_target_pypy(-),-python_single_target_python2_7(-),-python_single_target_python3_5(-),-python_single_target_python3_6(-),-python_single_target_python3_7(-)] 
required by (app-portage/gentoolkit-0.4.3:0/0::gentoo, installed)


For more information about Blocked Packages, please refer to the following
section of the Gentoo Linux x86 Handbook (architecture is irrelevant):

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Handbook:X86/Working/Portage#Blocked_packages


!!! The following installed packages are masked:
- sys-apps/man-1.6g-r1::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Mike Gilbert <floppym@gentoo.org> (2019-10-11)
# Inactive upstream for many years.
# Several open bugs.
# Please migrate to sys-apps/man-db.

- www-client/seamonkey-2.49.9.1_p0::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Lars Wendler <polynomial-c@gentoo.org> (2019-09-04)
# Unofficial build. Superseded by official 2.49.5 release.
# Masked for removal.

- dev-lang/perl-5.28.2::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/profiles/arch/base/package.mask:
# Andreas K. H??ttel <dilfridge@gentoo.org> (2019-08-30)
# Perl 5.26 will be removed soon. Please upgrade.
# This block is here (and not in ../../package.mask) since we still need
# it and unmask it on hppa and sparc. See bug 676062 and bug 683018.

For more information, see the MASKED PACKAGES section in the emerge
man page or refer to the Gentoo Handbook.


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Re: [gentoo-user] sneak peek at next update.

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 02:14:51 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote:

> I'm still as much as 3 months away from having spare CPU time,

If you are unable to update more frequently than that you are going to
encounter issues and maybe a binary distro would be a better fit.

> right now the next update is looking **BAD**:
> 
> 
> 
> tortoise ~ # emerge --update --verbose portage --backtrack=30 
> --verbose-conflicts --pretend

What are you emerging here, @system or @world?

> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild???????? U?? ] sys-apps/portage-2.3.76::gentoo [2.3.65::gentoo] 
> USE="(ipc) native-extensions rsync-verify xattr -build -doc -epydoc 
> -gentoo-dev (-selinux)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_6 python3_7 
> -pypy -python3_5" 1,010 KiB
> [blocks B?????????? ] <app-portage/gentoolkit-0.4.6 
> ("<app-portage/gentoolkit-0.4.6" is blocking sys-apps/portage-2.3.76)

Unmerge gentoolkit, then install the later version after portage if
updated.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

A friend of mine sent me a postcard with a satellite photo of the
entire planet on it, and on the back he wrote, "Wish you were here."

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[gentoo-user] Re: sneak peek at next update.

[Nuno Silva]

On 2019-10-12, Neil Bothwick wrote:

> On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 02:14:51 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote:
>
>> right now the next update is looking **BAD**:
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> tortoise ~ # emerge --update --verbose portage --backtrack=30 
>> --verbose-conflicts --pretend
>
> What are you emerging here, @system or @world?

portage

Alan, what if you try updating gentoolkit and portage at the same time?

>> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>> 
>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>> [ebuild???????? U?? ] sys-apps/portage-2.3.76::gentoo [2.3.65::gentoo] 
>> USE="(ipc) native-extensions rsync-verify xattr -build -doc -epydoc 
>> -gentoo-dev (-selinux)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_6 python3_7 
>> -pypy -python3_5" 1,010 KiB
>> [blocks B?????????? ] <app-portage/gentoolkit-0.4.6 
>> ("<app-portage/gentoolkit-0.4.6" is blocking sys-apps/portage-2.3.76)
>
> Unmerge gentoolkit, then install the later version after portage if
> updated.

I don't think it's necessary to unmerge, just to update. I might be
wrong, but I believe the reason why portage isn't solving this block by
itself is because it was told to update portage only.

-- 
Nuno Silva

Re: [gentoo-user] sneak peek at next update.

[Daniel Frey]

On 10/12/19 12:37 AM, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 02:14:51 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote:
> 
>> I'm still as much as 3 months away from having spare CPU time,
> 
> If you are unable to update more frequently than that you are going to
> encounter issues and maybe a binary distro would be a better fit.
> 
>> right now the next update is looking **BAD**:
>>
>>
>>
>> tortoise ~ # emerge --update --verbose portage --backtrack=30
>> --verbose-conflicts --pretend
> 
> What are you emerging here, @system or @world?
> 
>> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
>>
>> Calculating dependencies... done!
>> [ebuild???????? U?? ] sys-apps/portage-2.3.76::gentoo [2.3.65::gentoo]
>> USE="(ipc) native-extensions rsync-verify xattr -build -doc -epydoc
>> -gentoo-dev (-selinux)" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_6 python3_7
>> -pypy -python3_5" 1,010 KiB
>> [blocks B?????????? ] <app-portage/gentoolkit-0.4.6
>> ("<app-portage/gentoolkit-0.4.6" is blocking sys-apps/portage-2.3.76)
> 
> Unmerge gentoolkit, then install the later version after portage if
> updated.
> 
> 

I've run into this many times, whenever portage asks me to update itself 
after a sync I always run `emerge -a portage gentoolkit` to merge them 
both so this error doesn't happen.

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] sneak peek at next update.

[Alan Grimes]

Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 02:14:51 -0400, Alan Grimes wrote:
>
>> I'm still as much as 3 months away from having spare CPU time,
> If you are unable to update more frequently than that you are going to
> encounter issues and maybe a binary distro would be a better fit.
>
>> right now the next update is looking **BAD**:
>>
>>
>>
>> tortoise ~ # emerge --update --verbose portage --backtrack=30
>> --verbose-conflicts --pretend
> What are you emerging here, @system or @world?

Portage, just portage, only portage....

Ok, I sledgehammered the new portage into the system...

Here are some highlights from a many hundred killobyte "emerge system" 
log...


[ebuild???????? U?? ] sys-kernel/linux-headers-5.3::gentoo [5.0-r1::gentoo] 
USE="-headers-only" 106,019 KiB

!!!! I'm still frozen at kernel-4.8???? =\

####

[ebuild?? N???????? ] sys-libs/ncurses-compat-5.9:5::gentoo?? USE="gpm (tinfo) 
unicode" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)" 0 KiB
[uninstall???????? ] sys-libs/ncurses-5.9-r101:5::gentoo?? USE="gpm (tinfo) 
unicode" ABI_X86="32 (64) (-x32)"
[blocks b?????????? ] sys-libs/ncurses:5 ("sys-libs/ncurses:5" is blocking 
sys-libs/ncurses-compat-5.9)

You only want me to suffer, don't you?

How in god's name do I resolve this without bricking my system???

I mean basically no package on my system has an override that says "just 
use printf, damnit", they all make ncurses calls.... All of them! If I 
breathe on ncurses, portage instantly stops working (even BASH stops 
working!!) and I'm screwed...

###

masked package:
- www-client/seamonkey-2.49.9.1_p0::gentoo (masked by: package.mask)
/usr/portage/profiles/package.mask:
# Lars Wendler <polynomial-c@gentoo.org> (2019-09-04)
# Unofficial build. Superseded by official 2.49.5 release.
# Masked for removal.

Why do you hate me so much?

###

[blocks b?????????? ] dev-db/mysql[client-libs(+)] 
("dev-db/mysql[client-libs(+)]" is blocking 
dev-db/mysql-connector-c-6.1.11-r1)
[blocks b?????????? ] dev-db/mariadb[client-libs(+)] 
("dev-db/mariadb[client-libs(+)]" is blocking 
dev-db/mysql-connector-c-6.1.11-r1)

WTF is mariadb and WTH are you trying to install it on my system?




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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sneak peek at next update.

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 12 Oct 2019 13:11:12 +0100, (Nuno Silva) wrote:

> On 2019-10-12, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> 
> >> tortoise ~ # emerge --update --verbose portage --backtrack=30 
> >> --verbose-conflicts --pretend  
> >
> > What are you emerging here, @system or @world?  
> 
> portage

Ah, I missed portage because it was in the middle of the options.
 
> > Unmerge gentoolkit, then install the later version after portage if
> > updated.  
> 
> I don't think it's necessary to unmerge, just to update. I might be
> wrong, but I believe the reason why portage isn't solving this block by
> itself is because it was told to update portage only.

Agreed.


-- 
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Angular Momentum Makes The World Go 'Round

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[gentoo-user] Re: sneak peek at next update.

[Grant Edwards]

On 2019-10-12, Alan Grimes <alonzotg@verizon.net> wrote:

> I'm still as much as 3 months away from having spare CPU time, right now 
> the next update is looking **BAD**:

If you aren't going to update for 6 months at a time, then Gentoo is
not a wise choice for a distribution.  You've been told this many
times.  Gentoo is intended to be updated regularly (e.g. once every
week or three).  And if a Gentoo system has been sitting around
unmaintained for more than a 6-9 months, then it's usually easier to
just reinstall.

-- 
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                                  at               window!
                              gmail.com            

[gentoo-user] Re: sneak peek at next update.

[Grant Edwards]

On 2019-10-12, Daniel Frey <djqfrey@gmail.com> wrote:

> I've run into this many times, whenever portage asks me to update itself 
> after a sync I always run `emerge -a portage gentoolkit` to merge them 
> both so this error doesn't happen.

I ran into this for the first time last week, and I tinkered for an
embarassingly long time before it dawned on me that simply emerging
portage and gentoolkit together was the answer.  It does seem like a
bit of a bug when emerge tells you to run command "whatever", and when
you do emerge tells you it can't do "whatever".

-- 
Grant Edwards               grant.b.edwards        Yow! On the road, ZIPPY
                                  at               is a pinhead without a
                              gmail.com            purpose, but never without
                                                   a POINT.

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sneak peek at next update.

[Daniel Frey]

On 10/14/19 7:47 AM, Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2019-10-12, Daniel Frey <djqfrey@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
>> I've run into this many times, whenever portage asks me to update itself
>> after a sync I always run `emerge -a portage gentoolkit` to merge them
>> both so this error doesn't happen.
> 
> I ran into this for the first time last week, and I tinkered for an
> embarassingly long time before it dawned on me that simply emerging
> portage and gentoolkit together was the answer.  It does seem like a
> bit of a bug when emerge tells you to run command "whatever", and when
> you do emerge tells you it can't do "whatever".
> 

I remember the first time this happened to me some years ago I was 
thinking it'd be nice if there was a way to tell portage to update 
direct reverse dependencies. Something like `emerge -1uaR portage` that 
would tell emerge to update portage and gentoolkit as a reverse 
dependency. Of course the '-R' option doesn't exist. :)

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sneak peek at next update.

[Peter Humphrey]

On Monday, 14 October 2019 15:47:53 BST Grant Edwards wrote:
> On 2019-10-12, Daniel Frey <djqfrey@gmail.com> wrote:
> > I've run into this many times, whenever portage asks me to update itself
> > after a sync I always run `emerge -a portage gentoolkit` to merge them
> > both so this error doesn't happen.
> 
> I ran into this for the first time last week, and I tinkered for an
> embarassingly long time before it dawned on me that simply emerging
> portage and gentoolkit together was the answer.  It does seem like a
> bit of a bug when emerge tells you to run command "whatever", and when
> you do emerge tells you it can't do "whatever".

You did better than me then. I unmerged gentoolkit, then updated portage then 
remerged gentoolkit. Bare minimum of thought.  :)

-- 
Regards,
Peter.

[gentoo-user] Re: sneak peek at next update.

[Grant Edwards]

On 2019-10-14, Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk> wrote:
> On Monday, 14 October 2019 15:47:53 BST Grant Edwards wrote:
>> On 2019-10-12, Daniel Frey <djqfrey@gmail.com> wrote:
>> > I've run into this many times, whenever portage asks me to update itself
>> > after a sync I always run `emerge -a portage gentoolkit` to merge them
>> > both so this error doesn't happen.
>> 
>> I ran into this for the first time last week, and I tinkered for an
>> embarassingly long time before it dawned on me that simply emerging
>> portage and gentoolkit together was the answer.  It does seem like a
>> bit of a bug when emerge tells you to run command "whatever", and when
>> you do emerge tells you it can't do "whatever".
>
> You did better than me then. I unmerged gentoolkit, then updated portage then 
> remerged gentoolkit.

That was pretty much what I did when "tinkering", except unmerging
gentoolkit caused some other problem that I had to work around before
I could update portage.  Towards the end of the process I finally
realized what I should have done. The next three systems I updated
went a bit quicker.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: sneak peek at next update.

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 14 Oct 2019 17:12:22 +0100, Peter Humphrey wrote:

> > I ran into this for the first time last week, and I tinkered for an
> > embarassingly long time before it dawned on me that simply emerging
> > portage and gentoolkit together was the answer.  It does seem like a
> > bit of a bug when emerge tells you to run command "whatever", and when
> > you do emerge tells you it can't do "whatever".  
> 
> You did better than me then. I unmerged gentoolkit, then updated
> portage then remerged gentoolkit. Bare minimum of thought.  :)

I never bother to emerge portage separately, just emerge world and let
portage take care of itself. That way I don't have to think at all ;-)


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