[gentoo-user] Strange behavior of "tab" key with Libreoffice Calc and Plasma

[gentoo-user] Strange behavior of "tab" key with Libreoffice Calc and Plasma

[Stefano Crocco]

Hello to everyone,
a few months ago I started noticing a very annoying behavior when pressing the 
"tab" key in Libreoffice Calc. Previously, pressing this key would move the 
cursor by one cell to the right, so that I could immediately start writing 
into the cell. Now, while the cursor is moved to the correct cell (I can see 
the black border around it), I can't write in it immediately anymore. To move 
the cursor to the next cell and be able to immediately write in it, I need to 
press the tab key twice. It seems that somehow pressing the tab key once gives 
focus to the menu bar: pressing tab once, then pressing "F" brings down the 
file menu; pressing tab, then pressing "E" displays the edit menu and so on.

I tried creating a new user, but this behavior doesn't change. Starting a new 
X session using fvwm instead of Plasma makes the tab key start working 
correctly again (but using fwvm --replace to replace the window manager from 
inside a Plasma session does not). I tried looking at the various keyboard 
shortcuts in both SystemSettings and Libreoffice Calc hoping to find some hints, 
but I didn't find anything suspicious. 

Has anyone experienced this behavior? I tried looking for a bug report on 
bugs.gentoo.org but I found none. I also tried google but again without 
results.

Thanks in advance

Stefano

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange behavior of "tab" key with Libreoffice Calc and Plasma

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 20:59:34 +0200, Stefano Crocco wrote:

> a few months ago I started noticing a very annoying behavior when
> pressing the "tab" key in Libreoffice Calc. Previously, pressing this
> key would move the cursor by one cell to the right, so that I could
> immediately start writing into the cell. Now, while the cursor is moved
> to the correct cell (I can see the black border around it), I can't
> write in it immediately anymore. To move the cursor to the next cell
> and be able to immediately write in it, I need to press the tab key
> twice. It seems that somehow pressing the tab key once gives focus to
> the menu bar: pressing tab once, then pressing "F" brings down the file
> menu; pressing tab, then pressing "E" displays the edit menu and so on.

> Has anyone experienced this behavior?

I see it too and it's annoying as hell. Even more annoying will be that
when it is solved I will have got into the habit of pressing tab twice
for each move :(


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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange behavior of "tab" key with Libreoffice Calc and Plasma

[Stefano Crocco]

On domenica 23 giugno 2019 21:40:53 CEST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 20:59:34 +0200, Stefano Crocco wrote:
> > a few months ago I started noticing a very annoying behavior when
> > pressing the "tab" key in Libreoffice Calc. Previously, pressing this
> > key would move the cursor by one cell to the right, so that I could
> > immediately start writing into the cell. Now, while the cursor is moved
> > to the correct cell (I can see the black border around it), I can't
> > write in it immediately anymore. To move the cursor to the next cell
> > and be able to immediately write in it, I need to press the tab key
> > twice. It seems that somehow pressing the tab key once gives focus to
> > the menu bar: pressing tab once, then pressing "F" brings down the file
> > menu; pressing tab, then pressing "E" displays the edit menu and so on.
> > 
> > Has anyone experienced this behavior?
> 
> I see it too and it's annoying as hell. Even more annoying will be that
> when it is solved I will have got into the habit of pressing tab twice
> for each move :(

I'm (relatively) happy to know I'm not the only one experiencing this issue. 
Currently I'm playing around with USE flags to see whether there's a 
combination of them which fixes the problem. I think it's somehow caused by the 
kde flag: I tried USE="gtk2 kde -gtk", USE="kde -gtk -gtk2" and USE="gtk   -kde 
-gtk2" and the only configuration where this issue didn't appear was the one 
without kde. I've yet to try USE="-gtk2 kde gtk", but I don't think it'll 
work.

I'm getting really annoyed by this, so I think later today I'll file a bug 
report.

Stefano 

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange behavior of "tab" key with Libreoffice Calc and Plasma

[Stefano Crocco]

On lunedì 24 giugno 2019 13:44:04 CEST you wrote:
> On domenica 23 giugno 2019 21:40:53 CEST Neil Bothwick wrote:
> > On Sun, 23 Jun 2019 20:59:34 +0200, Stefano Crocco wrote:
> > > a few months ago I started noticing a very annoying behavior when
> > > pressing the "tab" key in Libreoffice Calc. Previously, pressing this
> > > key would move the cursor by one cell to the right, so that I could
> > > immediately start writing into the cell. Now, while the cursor is moved
> > > to the correct cell (I can see the black border around it), I can't
> > > write in it immediately anymore. To move the cursor to the next cell
> > > and be able to immediately write in it, I need to press the tab key
> > > twice. It seems that somehow pressing the tab key once gives focus to
> > > the menu bar: pressing tab once, then pressing "F" brings down the file
> > > menu; pressing tab, then pressing "E" displays the edit menu and so on.
> > > 
> > > Has anyone experienced this behavior?
> > 
> > I see it too and it's annoying as hell. Even more annoying will be that
> > when it is solved I will have got into the habit of pressing tab twice
> > for each move :(
> 
> I'm (relatively) happy to know I'm not the only one experiencing this issue.
> Currently I'm playing around with USE flags to see whether there's a
> combination of them which fixes the problem. I think it's somehow caused by
> the kde flag: I tried USE="gtk2 kde -gtk", USE="kde -gtk -gtk2" and
> USE="gtk   -kde -gtk2" and the only configuration where this issue didn't
> appear was the one without kde. I've yet to try USE="-gtk2 kde gtk", but I
> don't think it'll work.
> 
> I'm getting really annoyed by this, so I think later today I'll file a bug
> report.
> 
> Stefano

Bug submitted. For anyone interested, here's the link:
https://bugs.gentoo.org/688618

Stefano

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange behavior of "tab" key with Libreoffice Calc and Plasma

[Stefano Crocco]

On lunedì 24 giugno 2019 21:04:02 CEST Stefano Crocco wrote:

> Bug submitted. For anyone interested, here's the link:
> https://bugs.gentoo.org/688618
> 
> Stefano

As stated in the comments about the bug report, this bug is fixed in the 
current development version of LibreOffice, which is (without keywords) in the 
portage tree as libreoffice-6.2.5.2.

Stefano

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange behavior of "tab" key with Libreoffice Calc and Plasma

[Philip Webb]

190623 Stefano Crocco wrote:
> a few months ago I started noticing a very annoying behavior
> when pressing the "tab" key in Libreoffice Calc.
> Previously, pressing this key would move the cursor by one cell to the right,
> so that I could immediately start writing into the cell.

That's what it does for me now, using LO 6.2.4.2 on KDE.

> Now, while the cursor is moved to the correct cell
> -- I can see the black border around it -- ,
> I can't write in it immediately anymore.
> To move the cursor to the next cell and be able to immediately write in it,
> I need to press the tab key twice.
> It seems that somehow pressing the tab key once gives focus to the menu bar:
> pressing tab once, then pressing "F" brings down the file menu;
> pressing tab, then pressing "E" displays the edit menu and so on.

Here, pressing Tab-Tab simply moves  2  cells to the right.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange behavior of "tab" key with Libreoffice Calc and Plasma

[Mick]

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On Sunday, 23 June 2019 21:31:33 BST Philip Webb wrote:
> 190623 Stefano Crocco wrote:
> > a few months ago I started noticing a very annoying behavior
> > when pressing the "tab" key in Libreoffice Calc.
> > Previously, pressing this key would move the cursor by one cell to the
> > right, so that I could immediately start writing into the cell.
> 
> That's what it does for me now, using LO 6.2.4.2 on KDE.

Also on the same version, but running Plasma/KDE-5.15.5,  single tab moves to 
the cell on the right AND selects the main menu.  :-/


> > Now, while the cursor is moved to the correct cell
> > -- I can see the black border around it -- ,
> > I can't write in it immediately anymore.
> > To move the cursor to the next cell and be able to immediately write in
> > it,
> > I need to press the tab key twice.
> > It seems that somehow pressing the tab key once gives focus to the menu
> > bar: pressing tab once, then pressing "F" brings down the file menu;
> > pressing tab, then pressing "E" displays the edit menu and so on.
> 
> Here, pressing Tab-Tab simply moves  2  cells to the right.

Hmm ... are you running a non-KDE environment by any chance?

I just tried LO on Englightenment and it works fine, BUT it runs with GTK 
icons.  Various KDE DEs however exhibit the same behaviour here - double tab 
to move to the right cell and select it to be able to enter data.

Another thing I tried is to launch it with:

 SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gtk3 soffice

On a plasma only system, it will not respect this incantation and About always 
shows "VCL: kde5; " so this leads me to conclude the problem is with the KDE 
compilation flag.

If I remember I'll disable it on the next update and see what happens then.
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Mick

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange behavior of "tab" key with Libreoffice Calc and Plasma

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 17:52:15 +0100, Mick wrote:

> > > It seems that somehow pressing the tab key once gives focus to the
> > > menu bar: pressing tab once, then pressing "F" brings down the file
> > > menu; pressing tab, then pressing "E" displays the edit menu and so
> > > on.  
> > 
> > Here, pressing Tab-Tab simply moves  2  cells to the right.  
> 
> Hmm ... are you running a non-KDE environment by any chance?
> 
> I just tried LO on Englightenment and it works fine, BUT it runs with
> GTK icons.  Various KDE DEs however exhibit the same behaviour here -
> double tab to move to the right cell and select it to be able to enter
> data.
> 
> Another thing I tried is to launch it with:
> 
>  SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gtk3 soffice
> 
> On a plasma only system, it will not respect this incantation and About
> always shows "VCL: kde5; " so this leads me to conclude the problem is
> with the KDE compilation flag.

Good catch, that one worked for me, bit I have LO installed with both the
kde and gtk USE flags.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange behavior of "tab" key with Libreoffice Calc and Plasma

[Philip Webb]

190624 Mick wrote:
> On Sunday, 23 June 2019 21:31:33 BST Philip Webb wrote:
>> 190623 Stefano Crocco wrote:
>>> a few months ago I started noticing a very annoying behavior
>>> when pressing the "tab" key in Libreoffice Calc.
>>> Previously, pressing this key would move the cursor by one cell to the
>>> right, so that I could immediately start writing into the cell.
>> That's what it does for me now, using LO 6.2.4.2 on KDE.
>> Here, pressing Tab-Tab simply moves  2  cells to the right.
> Hmm ... are you running a non-KDE environment by any chance?

Plasma-5.15.5 , Frameworks-5.57.0 , Apps-18.12.3 .

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange behavior of "tab" key with Libreoffice Calc and Plasma

[Stefano Crocco]

On domenica 23 giugno 2019 22:31:33 CEST Philip Webb wrote:
> 190623 Stefano Crocco wrote:
> > a few months ago I started noticing a very annoying behavior
> > when pressing the "tab" key in Libreoffice Calc.
> > Previously, pressing this key would move the cursor by one cell to the
> > right, so that I could immediately start writing into the cell.
> 
> That's what it does for me now, using LO 6.2.4.2 on KDE.
> 
> > Now, while the cursor is moved to the correct cell
> > -- I can see the black border around it -- ,
> > I can't write in it immediately anymore.
> > To move the cursor to the next cell and be able to immediately write in
> > it,
> > I need to press the tab key twice.
> > It seems that somehow pressing the tab key once gives focus to the menu
> > bar: pressing tab once, then pressing "F" brings down the file menu;
> > pressing tab, then pressing "E" displays the edit menu and so on.
> 
> Here, pressing Tab-Tab simply moves  2  cells to the right.

Thanks for the answer. Do you have the kde use flag enabled? This morning I've 
tried several combinations of flags and only disabling the kde one this issue 
disappeared.

Stefano

Re: [gentoo-user] Strange behavior of "tab" key with Libreoffice Calc and Plasma

[Philip Webb]

190624 Stefano Crocco wrote:
> On domenica 23 giugno 2019 22:31:33 CEST Philip Webb wrote:
>> That's what it does for me now, using LO 6.2.4.2 on KDE.
>> Here, pressing Tab-Tab simply moves  2  cells to the right.
> Do you have the kde use flag enabled ?
> This morning I've tried several combinations of flags
> and only disabling the kde one this issue disappeared.

  root:529 ~> eix libreoffice
  [I] app-office/libreoffice
  Available versions:  6.1.5.2 6.2.4.2 **6.2.9999 **9999 {accessibility bluetooth +branding coinmp +cups dbus debug eds firebird googledrive gstreamer +gtk gtk2 java kde ldap +mariadb mysql odk pdfimport postgres test vlc ELIBC="FreeBSD" LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="nlpsolver scripting-beanshell scripting-javascript wiki-publisher" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 python3_5 python3_6 python3_7" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_5 python3_6 python3_7"}
  Installed versions:  6.2.4.2([2019-06-19 06:18:11])(accessibility cups dbus gtk gtk2 pdfimport -bluetooth -branding -coinmp -debug -eds -firebird -googledrive -gstreamer -java -kde -ldap -mariadb -odk -postgres -test -vlc ELIBC="-FreeBSD" LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="-nlpsolver -scripting-beanshell -scripting-javascript -wiki-publisher" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_6 -python2_7 -python3_5 -python3_7" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_6 -python3_5 -python3_7")

So, yes (smile).

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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange behavior of "tab" key with Libreoffice Calc and Plasma

[Mick]

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On Monday, 24 June 2019 21:11:48 BST Philip Webb wrote:
> 190624 Stefano Crocco wrote:
> > On domenica 23 giugno 2019 22:31:33 CEST Philip Webb wrote:
> >> That's what it does for me now, using LO 6.2.4.2 on KDE.
> >> Here, pressing Tab-Tab simply moves  2  cells to the right.
> > 
> > Do you have the kde use flag enabled ?
> > This morning I've tried several combinations of flags
> > and only disabling the kde one this issue disappeared.
> 
>   root:529 ~> eix libreoffice
>   [I] app-office/libreoffice
>   Available versions:  6.1.5.2 6.2.4.2 **6.2.9999 **9999 {accessibility
> bluetooth +branding coinmp +cups dbus debug eds firebird googledrive
> gstreamer +gtk gtk2 java kde ldap +mariadb mysql odk pdfimport postgres
> test vlc ELIBC="FreeBSD" LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="nlpsolver
> scripting-beanshell scripting-javascript wiki-publisher"
> PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 python3_5 python3_6 python3_7"
> PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_5 python3_6 python3_7"} Installed
> versions:  6.2.4.2([2019-06-19 06:18:11])(accessibility cups dbus gtk gtk2
> pdfimport -bluetooth -branding -coinmp -debug -eds -firebird -googledrive
> -gstreamer -java -kde -ldap -mariadb -odk -postgres -test -vlc
> ELIBC="-FreeBSD" LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="-nlpsolver -scripting-beanshell
> -scripting-javascript -wiki-publisher" PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_6
> -python2_7 -python3_5 -python3_7" PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_6
> -python3_5 -python3_7")
> 
> So, yes (smile).

It depends on which VLC plugin is used, KDE, or Gtk.  Go to Help/About and you 
can see when loaded with the KDE VLC plugin the 'tab-losing-cell-focus' bug is 
present.  With the Gtk VLC plugin loaded, the tab works as it should.
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Re: [gentoo-user] Strange behavior of "tab" key with Libreoffice Calc and Plasma

[Philip Webb]

190624 Mick wrote:
> It depends on which VLC plugin is used, KDE or Gtk.
> Go to Help/About and you can see when loaded with the KDE VLC plugin
> the 'tab-losing-cell-focus' bug is present.
> With the Gtk VLC plugin loaded, the tab works as it should.

I don't see anything re a bug, but it does say 'VLC: gtk3'.

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[gentoo-user] Re: Strange behavior of "tab" key with Libreoffice Calc and Plasma

[»Q«]

On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 21:15:55 +0100
Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Monday, 24 June 2019 21:11:48 BST Philip Webb wrote:
> > 190624 Stefano Crocco wrote:  
> > > On domenica 23 giugno 2019 22:31:33 CEST Philip Webb wrote:  
> > >> That's what it does for me now, using LO 6.2.4.2 on KDE.
> > >> Here, pressing Tab-Tab simply moves  2  cells to the right.  
> > > 
> > > Do you have the kde use flag enabled ?
> > > This morning I've tried several combinations of flags
> > > and only disabling the kde one this issue disappeared.  
> > 
> >   root:529 ~> eix libreoffice
> >   [I] app-office/libreoffice
> >   Available versions:  6.1.5.2 6.2.4.2 **6.2.9999 **9999
> > {accessibility bluetooth +branding coinmp +cups dbus debug eds
> > firebird googledrive gstreamer +gtk gtk2 java kde ldap +mariadb
> > mysql odk pdfimport postgres test vlc ELIBC="FreeBSD"
> > LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="nlpsolver scripting-beanshell
> > scripting-javascript wiki-publisher"
> > PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 python3_5 python3_6 python3_7"
> > PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_5 python3_6 python3_7"} Installed
> > versions:  6.2.4.2([2019-06-19 06:18:11])(accessibility cups dbus
> > gtk gtk2 pdfimport -bluetooth -branding -coinmp -debug -eds
> > -firebird -googledrive -gstreamer -java -kde -ldap -mariadb -odk
> > -postgres -test -vlc ELIBC="-FreeBSD"
> > LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="-nlpsolver -scripting-beanshell
> > -scripting-javascript -wiki-publisher"
> > PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_6 -python2_7 -python3_5 -python3_7"
> > PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_6 -python3_5 -python3_7")
> > 
> > So, yes (smile).  
> 
> It depends on which VLC plugin is used, KDE, or Gtk.  Go to
> Help/About and you can see when loaded with the KDE VLC plugin the
> 'tab-losing-cell-focus' bug is present.  With the Gtk VLC plugin
> loaded, the tab works as it should.

Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me, I think you mean which VCL
(not VLC) is being used. <https://docs.libreoffice.org/vcl.html>

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strange behavior of "tab" key with Libreoffice Calc and Plasma

[Mick]

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On Tuesday, 25 June 2019 14:17:21 BST »Q« wrote:
> On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 21:15:55 +0100
> 
> Mick <michaelkintzios@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Monday, 24 June 2019 21:11:48 BST Philip Webb wrote:
> > > 190624 Stefano Crocco wrote:
> > > > On domenica 23 giugno 2019 22:31:33 CEST Philip Webb wrote:
> > > >> That's what it does for me now, using LO 6.2.4.2 on KDE.
> > > >> Here, pressing Tab-Tab simply moves  2  cells to the right.
> > > > 
> > > > Do you have the kde use flag enabled ?
> > > > This morning I've tried several combinations of flags
> > > > and only disabling the kde one this issue disappeared.
> > > > 
> > >   root:529 ~> eix libreoffice
> > >   [I] app-office/libreoffice
> > >   Available versions:  6.1.5.2 6.2.4.2 **6.2.9999 **9999
> > > 
> > > {accessibility bluetooth +branding coinmp +cups dbus debug eds
> > > firebird googledrive gstreamer +gtk gtk2 java kde ldap +mariadb
> > > mysql odk pdfimport postgres test vlc ELIBC="FreeBSD"
> > > LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="nlpsolver scripting-beanshell
> > > scripting-javascript wiki-publisher"
> > > PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python2_7 python3_5 python3_6 python3_7"
> > > PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_5 python3_6 python3_7"} Installed
> > > versions:  6.2.4.2([2019-06-19 06:18:11])(accessibility cups dbus
> > > gtk gtk2 pdfimport -bluetooth -branding -coinmp -debug -eds
> > > -firebird -googledrive -gstreamer -java -kde -ldap -mariadb -odk
> > > -postgres -test -vlc ELIBC="-FreeBSD"
> > > LIBREOFFICE_EXTENSIONS="-nlpsolver -scripting-beanshell
> > > -scripting-javascript -wiki-publisher"
> > > PYTHON_SINGLE_TARGET="python3_6 -python2_7 -python3_5 -python3_7"
> > > PYTHON_TARGETS="python2_7 python3_6 -python3_5 -python3_7")
> > > 
> > > So, yes (smile).
> > 
> > It depends on which VLC plugin is used, KDE, or Gtk.  Go to
> > Help/About and you can see when loaded with the KDE VLC plugin the
> > 'tab-losing-cell-focus' bug is present.  With the Gtk VLC plugin
> > loaded, the tab works as it should.
> 
> Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me, I think you mean which VCL
> (not VLC) is being used. <https://docs.libreoffice.org/vcl.html>

I beg your pardon, yes, I meant to say vcl.  I just started LOcalc from within 
Enlightenment, which does not load the KDE env profile and which shows:

Version: 6.2.4.2.0+
Build ID: Gentoo official package
CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 4.19; UI render: default; VCL: x11; 

There's no tab problem with this one.
 
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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Strange behavior of "tab" key with Libreoffice Calc and Plasma

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 25 Jun 2019 14:59:39 +0100, Mick wrote:

> > Unless my eyes are playing tricks on me, I think you mean which VCL
> > (not VLC) is being used. <https://docs.libreoffice.org/vcl.html>  
> 
> I beg your pardon, yes, I meant to say vcl.  I just started LOcalc from
> within Enlightenment, which does not load the KDE env profile and which
> shows:
> 
> Version: 6.2.4.2.0+
> Build ID: Gentoo official package
> CPU threads: 4; OS: Linux 4.19; UI render: default; VCL: x11; 
> 
> There's no tab problem with this one.

I "solved" this by putting SAL_USE_VCLPLUGIN=gtk3 in a file in /etc/env.d
and running env-update.


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