From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AD7B3138334 for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:18:04 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 1AD81E0943; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:17:59 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost01c.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01c.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.1.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 94FA6E091D for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:17:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.69.83.178] (helo=mail.digimed.co.uk) by smarthost01c.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1hfMyz-00085F-8P for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 11:17:57 +0000 Received: from digimed.co.uk (fenchurch.digimed.co.uk [192.168.1.6]) by mail.digimed.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id ADEE765C7A for ; Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:17:56 +0100 (BST) Date: Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:17:51 +0100 From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Plasma teething problems - Part I Message-ID: <20190624121751.2558d87e@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <1609409.kPdVWyr4yL@localhost> References: <1609409.kPdVWyr4yL@localhost> Organization: Digital Media Production X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.17.3 (GTK+ 2.24.32; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7260 0F33 97EC 2F1E 7667 FE37 BA6E 1A97 4375 1903 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org X-Auto-Response-Suppress: DR, RN, NRN, OOF, AutoReply MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/BX20+hob9=arx6Cfu+lP/GB"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Originating-smarthost01c-IP: [82.69.83.178] Feedback-ID: 82.69.83.178 X-Archives-Salt: ddac0b30-f5eb-4cad-8e81-cd490d8b20bb X-Archives-Hash: 64df61ff9b6d2960da3fbda42b70e7df --Sig_/BX20+hob9=arx6Cfu+lP/GB Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Mon, 24 Jun 2019 12:00:36 +0100, Mick wrote: > Well, not Plasma's but mine for sure. I have been chasing my tail > trying to reverse engineer processes/services/applications I do not > want auto-running on a fresh Plasma installation and I'm fast losing > the will to live. >=20 > I've installed plasma-meta plus some kde-apps meta packages as follows: >=20 > kde-apps/kdeadmin-meta > kde-apps/kdecore-meta > kde-apps/kdegraphics-meta > kde-apps/kdemultimedia-meta > kde-apps/kdenetwork-meta > kde-apps/kdepim-meta > kde-apps/kdeutils-meta > kde-apps/kwalletmanager > kde-frameworks/oxygen-icons > kde-plasma/plasma-meta >=20 > One of the above[1] brought in NetworkManager, which I don't use > because for my use case there's nothing wrong with openrc netifrc > scripts. When I plug in a USB wireless adaptor nothing happens since > it stays dormant, although its LED illuminates. Then I enable it by > starting 'net.wlp0s18f2u1' and at that point NM starts fighting over > the wireless adaptor, resulting in the unpleasant phenomenon of > dropping the connection every few minutes and changing its MAC address, > consequently rendering it unusable with APs which implement ACL. >=20 > [1] kde-plasma/plasma-meta requires kde-plasma/powerdevil, which > requires kde- frameworks/networkmanager-qt, which requires > net-misc/networkmanager, which requires net-misc/modemmanager >=20 > So I naively thought, let's try stopping NM (note: the NetworkManager > rc service is not set to run at any level, so something else is > starting it). The moment I stop NM I find my logs being flooded with a > storm of 'dbus failing to start obex', which bluez wants. Note: I have > not started a bluetooth service, or tried running bluetootctl, and BTW > rfkill shows the bluetooth adaptor is soft blocked anyway. >=20 > So I now try to stop dbus and restart it, which results in losing > access to any Plasma menu applications, so I can't launch any > application. It may be worth mentioning when I leave alone NM and just > disable the USB adaptor from openrc, I also lose access to launching > KDE applications (the error message when trying to launch an app from a > terminal mentions a Qt error). >=20 > Could someone more knowledgeable in Plasma/KDE shenanigans please > explain how I can end up with a workable USB wireless dongle, which I > can enable/disable at will? >=20 Set USE=3D"-wireless" for powerdevil I have KDE on this laptop, with no NM. The wireless connection is managed by systemd-networkd here, but the same should be possible with openrc and no NM. --=20 Neil Bothwick System halted - hit any Microsoft employee to continue. --Sig_/BX20+hob9=arx6Cfu+lP/GB Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEEGfLZTV7dXdQXh/dDdCdyyQfftocFAl0QsV8ACgkQdCdyyQff toe8aRAApCz9iFCYzVCjFl26j9Q1W27bwM6V0Zq1vTwuNBMnEaPYuId0yXA2ysXm Q/5f1avfN02rSiS3GIFNJ1cdN5pb5HYW1Efdlu7sDGEWj8CH+2+T2VXf5l6MToj4 hpdgTWKVqbyTRyIucKs5nycKGpB3V2MMG8EO4h2mz467gaPHDNaqNB/7xEsHgbI4 LWZ+bL2ByrU51cZKGYg53EEXxVV7FVZDZxnfZZ6KM1K45q251XAhuZIoV721niXE ikvh1knFxtYKrUnoi1fc7jq0R/MBpSwbDjGrLduFUdaK/QByuq2qbIaCYHc/s4W+ LwV78TfHTCqsMOK5Fx28cmhpYqnpNXpzG1ewSCkI1wn4Rf5MQflP9Q42+6C/s3iP LqseM6i66r1jhS59/qmtOi/JmTAlJDrlzPahxG2kJ3owV2fI8TGMHWD+zosko0bv rSjHW6Fy8d/YDQWNBGQY97Wv/ee0aI+jljyMR+Ne1r2ttd7/GL6g+fb9hG4cSxf6 BzJKW08xfEtAdS2hhEP4FzEgTrOlJbQcL9d3jmUoBS8i80yyYHhEDWLEeWSGUfRz gHDDRNqSrP0WGXFS0FlyE/kpyYPxbcrhGqyUb7ubl68uPb8wSMW3n3/rXL+fv+uL qUnxX4qezT/vp5P5xd1LGwW0Dx7YcbUuXGKO1zBpoMJ8ZMRT928= =JQvC -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/BX20+hob9=arx6Cfu+lP/GB--