From: Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: CPU upgrade and LVM questions.
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 10:20:02 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20181211102002.GA4911@ACM> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <0fe209dd-649f-c1fc-8c84-4f84aad7ed15@gmx.com>
On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 at 21:00:45 -0500, Taiidan@gmx.com wrote:
> On 12/10/2018 05:54 PM, Dale wrote:
> > Neil Bothwick wrote:
> >> On Mon, 10 Dec 2018 16:33:10 -0500, Taiidan@gmx.com wrote:
> >>>> Not sure which country would be a reliable location though, I
> >>>> wouldn't trust Western European countries either.
> >>> USA is currently the best option since there have never been proven
> >>> backdoors in made in usa hardware but plenty in chinese made hardware
> >>> such as the recent motherboard hack chip scandal.
> >> So that proves that US manufacturers are better at hiding their back
> >> doors?
> >> Or is it a numbers game, there are a hell of a lot more systems made in
> >> China, so the chances of a backdoor being discovered is higher.
> >> Either way, lack of evidence of insecurity is not proof of security.
> So tell us what is your perfect country for hardware manufacturing?
> Name one other country on earth besides america where you can say no to
> a governmental request for a backdoor in your hardware or software
> products and not end up in prison.
Germany.
Whether that is the case or not in the USA is very doubtful. Apple
recently had to fight hard against such a demand, but the authorities
backed down without the principle being decided upon.
> The amd bulldozer and piledriver CPU's like the FX-8350 and its opteron
> counterparts are made in germany (the packaging is done in china but at
> that point afaik there isn't much that can be done to fuck with it) but
> that still wouldn't satisfy you since germany doesn't have anything like
> the constitution - they have no freedom of speech.
Er, steady on, PLEASE! Germany HAS a constitution, and freedom of speech
is a prominent part of that. It is backed up by the constitutional court
at Karlsruhe, which is known for ruling against authorities' powers
relatively frequently. What's more, unlike in the USA, there is an
explicit constitutional right to privacy, which is taken very seriously,
particularly after the abuses by the state security in the former German
Democratic Republic.
None of which means that the German security services don't get up to
dirty tricks, of course.
Before coming out with any such ignorant falsehoods in the future, I
would recommend you at least to consult Wikipedia, or such like.
--
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).
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Thread overview: 69+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2018-12-06 9:27 [gentoo-user] CPU upgrade and LVM questions Dale
2018-12-06 10:03 ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-06 15:17 ` Dale
2018-12-06 16:51 ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-06 18:36 ` Corbin Bird
2018-12-06 20:58 ` Dale
2018-12-06 21:24 ` Jack
2018-12-06 21:55 ` Dale
2018-12-07 1:06 ` Corbin Bird
2018-12-07 1:17 ` Dale
2018-12-07 5:10 ` Dale
2018-12-07 6:22 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-07 7:30 ` Dale
2018-12-07 10:49 ` Alec Ten Harmsel
2018-12-07 23:47 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-07 23:59 ` Dale
2018-12-09 18:23 ` Taiidan
2018-12-09 18:57 ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-09 22:41 ` Dale
2018-12-10 21:33 ` Taiidan
2018-12-10 22:14 ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-10 22:54 ` Dale
2018-12-11 2:00 ` Taiidan
2018-12-11 8:49 ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-11 9:23 ` Mick
2018-12-11 10:48 ` Dale
2018-12-11 15:14 ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-11 22:46 ` Adam Carter
2018-12-11 23:56 ` Dale
2018-12-12 2:15 ` Adam Carter
2018-12-11 10:20 ` Alan Mackenzie [this message]
2018-12-11 15:03 ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-07 8:47 ` [gentoo-user] " Neil Bothwick
2018-12-07 8:58 ` Dale
2018-12-06 21:02 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-06 21:45 ` Dale
2018-12-06 22:22 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-06 23:23 ` Dale
2018-12-06 23:40 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-07 0:19 ` Dale
2018-12-07 10:01 ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-07 12:41 ` Dale
2018-12-07 16:51 ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-08 1:01 ` Dale
2018-12-08 2:51 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-08 4:39 ` Dale
2018-12-08 5:33 ` David Haller
2018-12-08 5:45 ` Dale
2018-12-08 6:00 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2018-12-08 6:28 ` David Haller
2018-12-08 4:23 ` David Haller
2018-12-08 5:35 ` Dale
2018-12-08 6:06 ` David Haller
2018-12-08 5:38 ` David Haller
2018-12-08 9:40 ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-08 9:50 ` Peter Humphrey
2018-12-06 21:03 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Taylor
2018-12-09 22:45 ` Dale
2018-12-10 1:35 ` Grant Taylor
2018-12-10 2:38 ` Dale
2018-12-10 3:37 ` Grant Taylor
2018-12-10 9:27 ` Neil Bothwick
2018-12-10 16:00 ` Dale
2018-12-08 17:49 ` Alexander Puchmayr
2018-12-08 18:23 ` Dale
2018-12-08 19:09 ` J. Roeleveld
2018-12-08 20:48 ` Dale
2018-12-11 10:41 ` Dale
2018-12-22 23:58 ` Dale
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