* [gentoo-user] Specific MAKEOPTS for one package
@ 2018-09-25 13:25 Klaus Ethgen
2018-09-25 13:31 ` Michael Orlitzky
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From: Klaus Ethgen @ 2018-09-25 13:25 UTC (permalink / raw
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Hi Folks,
I have set MAKEOPTS="-j3" in my make.conf. That is great for most
packages but when I compile firefox that makes my box exploding as it
consumes simply to much RAM.
Is there an option to set -j1 just for firefox package? (and rust, that
has the same problem)?
Regards
Klaus
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Specific MAKEOPTS for one package
2018-09-25 13:25 [gentoo-user] Specific MAKEOPTS for one package Klaus Ethgen
@ 2018-09-25 13:31 ` Michael Orlitzky
2018-09-25 13:34 ` Dale
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From: Michael Orlitzky @ 2018-09-25 13:31 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 09/25/2018 09:25 AM, Klaus Ethgen wrote>
> Is there an option to set -j1 just for firefox package? (and rust, that
> has the same problem)?
>
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/package.env
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Specific MAKEOPTS for one package
2018-09-25 13:25 [gentoo-user] Specific MAKEOPTS for one package Klaus Ethgen
2018-09-25 13:31 ` Michael Orlitzky
@ 2018-09-25 13:34 ` Dale
2018-09-25 14:00 ` Peter Humphrey
2018-09-28 4:19 ` Walter Dnes
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From: Dale @ 2018-09-25 13:34 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> Hi Folks,
>
> I have set MAKEOPTS="-j3" in my make.conf. That is great for most
> packages but when I compile firefox that makes my box exploding as it
> consumes simply to much RAM.
>
> Is there an option to set -j1 just for firefox package? (and rust, that
> has the same problem)?
>
> Regards
> Klaus
I think you are looking for this:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki//etc/portage/package.env
It's been a while since I've had to do this but I'm fairly sure that
will do what you want.
Hope that helps.
Dale
:-) :-)
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Specific MAKEOPTS for one package
2018-09-25 13:25 [gentoo-user] Specific MAKEOPTS for one package Klaus Ethgen
2018-09-25 13:31 ` Michael Orlitzky
2018-09-25 13:34 ` Dale
@ 2018-09-25 14:00 ` Peter Humphrey
2018-09-25 14:05 ` Klaus Ethgen
2018-09-28 4:19 ` Walter Dnes
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From: Peter Humphrey @ 2018-09-25 14:00 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tuesday, 25 September 2018 14:25:50 BST Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> Is there an option to set -j1 just for firefox package? (and rust, that
> has the same problem)?
As Dale and Michael said, but you may find -j2 acceptable; It's what I use for
everything here.
--
Regards,
Peter.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Specific MAKEOPTS for one package
2018-09-25 14:00 ` Peter Humphrey
@ 2018-09-25 14:05 ` Klaus Ethgen
2018-09-26 13:57 ` james
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From: Klaus Ethgen @ 2018-09-25 14:05 UTC (permalink / raw
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Thanks Dale and Michael, that was exactly I was searching for. (I think.
;-)
Am Di den 25. Sep 2018 um 15:00 schrieb Peter Humphrey:
> On Tuesday, 25 September 2018 14:25:50 BST Klaus Ethgen wrote:
>
> > Is there an option to set -j1 just for firefox package? (and rust, that
> > has the same problem)?
>
> As Dale and Michael said, but you may find -j2 acceptable; It's what I use for
> everything here.
No. Firefox and Rust is such a beast. It kills my machine even with -j2.
Regards
Klaus
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Specific MAKEOPTS for one package
2018-09-25 14:05 ` Klaus Ethgen
@ 2018-09-26 13:57 ` james
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From: james @ 2018-09-26 13:57 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 9/25/18 10:05 AM, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
> Thanks Dale and Michael, that was exactly I was searching for. (I think.
> ;-)
>
> Am Di den 25. Sep 2018 um 15:00 schrieb Peter Humphrey:
>> On Tuesday, 25 September 2018 14:25:50 BST Klaus Ethgen wrote:
>
>>> Is there an option to set -j1 just for firefox package? (and rust, that
>>> has the same problem)?
>
>> As Dale and Michael said, but you may find -j2 acceptable; It's what I use for
>> everything here.
>
> No. Firefox and Rust is such a beast. It kills my machine even with -j2.
>
> Regards
> Klaus
>
>
Memory may be your issue. A wide variety of places to look at::
ebuild
kernel
userland
I'd suggest you start with reading up on 'jemalloc' as a place to start.
Hopefully other will 'chime in' on debugging/controlling memory
constrained systems and large memory requirements on older/limited
resources.
hth,
James
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Specific MAKEOPTS for one package
2018-09-25 13:25 [gentoo-user] Specific MAKEOPTS for one package Klaus Ethgen
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2018-09-25 14:00 ` Peter Humphrey
@ 2018-09-28 4:19 ` Walter Dnes
2018-10-01 11:34 ` Klaus Ethgen
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From: Walter Dnes @ 2018-09-28 4:19 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 02:25:50PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote
> Hi Folks,
>
> I have set MAKEOPTS="-j3" in my make.conf.
I assume you have 2 cores on your cpu and you're adding 1 as per the
ancient rule. That may not be the best option anyways. See
https://blogs.gentoo.org/ago/2013/01/14/makeopts-jcore-1-is-not-the-best-optimization/
The author of the blog post ran multiple tests, and concluded that
setting MAKEOPTS -j to the actual number of cores is slightly faster.
Years ago, the gcc compiler was less efficient, and adding 1 to -j did
improve compilation speed. That is apparently not the case today.
--
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Specific MAKEOPTS for one package
2018-09-28 4:19 ` Walter Dnes
@ 2018-10-01 11:34 ` Klaus Ethgen
2018-10-01 14:45 ` Michael Orlitzky
2018-10-01 19:48 ` Walter Dnes
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From: Klaus Ethgen @ 2018-10-01 11:34 UTC (permalink / raw
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Am Fr den 28. Sep 2018 um 5:19 schrieb Walter Dnes:
> On Tue, Sep 25, 2018 at 02:25:50PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote
> > I have set MAKEOPTS="-j3" in my make.conf.
> I assume you have 2 cores on your cpu and you're adding 1 as per the
> ancient rule.
True.
> That may not be the best option anyways. See
> https://blogs.gentoo.org/ago/2013/01/14/makeopts-jcore-1-is-not-the-best-optimization/
> The author of the blog post ran multiple tests, and concluded that
> setting MAKEOPTS -j to the actual number of cores is slightly faster.
> Years ago, the gcc compiler was less efficient, and adding 1 to -j did
> improve compilation speed. That is apparently not the case today.
Interesting thoughts.
First, cpufreq-set seems to be not available on gentoo anymore. Doesn't
matter, just giving it a try.
It came out, that all build times have nearly the same sys times but the
user and real times vary. Funny, this is a two CPU machine but the build
with -j1 consumes the least user time. Just the real value gives the
same pattern than on the site.
Regards
Klaus
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Specific MAKEOPTS for one package
2018-10-01 11:34 ` Klaus Ethgen
@ 2018-10-01 14:45 ` Michael Orlitzky
2018-10-01 19:48 ` Walter Dnes
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From: Michael Orlitzky @ 2018-10-01 14:45 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On 10/01/2018 07:34 AM, Klaus Ethgen wrote:
>
> First, cpufreq-set seems to be not available on gentoo anymore. Doesn't
> matter, just giving it a try.
>
You want sys-power/cpupower these days.
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* Re: [gentoo-user] Specific MAKEOPTS for one package
2018-10-01 11:34 ` Klaus Ethgen
2018-10-01 14:45 ` Michael Orlitzky
@ 2018-10-01 19:48 ` Walter Dnes
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From: Walter Dnes @ 2018-10-01 19:48 UTC (permalink / raw
To: gentoo-user
On Mon, Oct 01, 2018 at 12:34:25PM +0100, Klaus Ethgen wrote
> First, cpufreq-set seems to be not available on gentoo anymore. Doesn't
> matter, just giving it a try.
I wrote up a bash script (Yes!) to do cpu speed control. As a script,
it has no external dependancies. The only requirements are that the CPU
supports frequency scaling, and that the appropriate CPU governors are
compiled into the kernel.
--
Walter Dnes <waltdnes@waltdnes.org>
I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications
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