From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 74C7D1382C5 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2018 08:03:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 18B09E0BE3; Fri, 2 Feb 2018 08:03:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost01c.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost01c.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.1.5]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 9BA65E0B9B for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2018 08:03:34 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.69.83.178] (helo=mail.digimed.co.uk) by smarthost01c.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1ehWJo-0003Sx-DX for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 02 Feb 2018 08:03:32 +0000 Received: from digimed.co.uk (fenchurch.digimed.co.uk [192.168.1.6]) by mail.digimed.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id E525B66FE8 for ; Fri, 2 Feb 2018 08:03:31 +0000 (GMT) Date: Fri, 2 Feb 2018 08:03:24 +0000 From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] A little help for non-native English speakers Message-ID: <20180202080324.3629d419@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <402d0d3e-1c18-8807-34c0-cc2497cc8f4b@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> References: <2979311.yKovLQH099@peak> <20180201185530.592dfe59@digimed.co.uk> <402d0d3e-1c18-8807-34c0-cc2497cc8f4b@spamtrap.tnetconsulting.net> Organization: Digital Media Production X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.16.0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7260 0F33 97EC 2F1E 7667 FE37 BA6E 1A97 4375 1903 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha256; boundary="Sig_/6f7zONnRWeoftfwkIItDY+e"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Originating-smarthost01c-IP: [82.69.83.178] Feedback-ID: 82.69.83.178 X-Archives-Salt: e9cc641c-99ef-442c-bf28-96b6e763bfcf X-Archives-Hash: 8a62d5dcad56cd0a56a59800666917af --Sig_/6f7zONnRWeoftfwkIItDY+e Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Thu, 1 Feb 2018 21:06:15 -0700, Grant Taylor wrote: > > And don't get me started on people using "which" when they should be > > using "that". > >=20 > > (In this case, which is correct but it should have a preceding > > comma). =20 >=20 > Please defend / expound upon your statement. - Because I'd like to > learn. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/English_relative_clauses#That_or_which_for_no= n-human_antecedents This mentions Fowlers, the reference that Peter said to read. Unfortunately, the distinction, and so the subtleties of meaning, is falling into disuse, even in professionally written copy. But its a bad habit which I will never get into! --=20 Neil Bothwick The word 'Windows' is a word out of an old dialect of the Apaches. It means: 'White man staring through glass-screen onto an hourglass...') --Sig_/6f7zONnRWeoftfwkIItDY+e Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIzBAEBCAAdFiEE8k9T/rX16EJxEKG692eFu0QSMJgFAlp0G0wACgkQ92eFu0QS MJgktRAAo53TxIzcZYZy0t5nYR1Fy7Tw4+6kd1zwMfkwDob/olQJmkW5M9bb8OCl Z2HPzmKuCzT/zl+fG3qoarrIariP9X97gVVr8wrHodnFlJlBnYGoITG4r3AWezp6 3VnC1tawWZ7yeN7AhGKuHaveL5BfL0vR6Nh2tcOWsUpXhTVSziCvl876ljq60WWQ OmfSWrj99nnwWNzDEnNYMpK0e6ds5piOAeIeoAZnZhqSbsrzvwNC4aMbDPO95Qz8 wOHevw8xm1qVUE6gfBhQ7WKGA74LKJBNapIqPsGIxGB2otPFD0bUtaGMR6WpiiWf 0uuC5QadJt+14+g/HVSeB6o1tFiQH8By4ZVHQ7jQ22v1MbtrvMlhVFSi7Bbns0IP 2Nw+4G+iOrh/XE9xRPKg4wfQFylcL02aW/4HOkuLMOBUijU8mpzgYIHsJGb0xvkC 1uAb5GWiETvKVc9Q0up2oisQNF6bU4r5Qn8ZkZ3JHCxE8DGVaVE6P3IPSruJLxo3 5RJ+thlqU9z0Sul2fdR0hIj08FmeLDdh6gc/7RWXG5oknWmIM/N6bN4RKpYX0F9Y gY7cyXVocm0rzxf/iHaPfcQcY/TjxgUDZZ/RssBZiizidhb6X+YfPKnHTp95oeDC uYJeklx68DAeKNHsMDSrD+Dc8bkpF4dgWs0pC5kP71lua+DZz6o= =004V -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/6f7zONnRWeoftfwkIItDY+e--