From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 83040138330 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2018 05:33:53 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 04839E08D9; Sun, 14 Jan 2018 05:33:44 +0000 (UTC) Received: from mout.gmx.net (mout.gmx.net [212.227.17.20]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES128-GCM-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 54CD5E08C4 for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2018 05:33:43 +0000 (UTC) Received: from localhost ([79.223.101.47]) by mail.gmx.com (mrgmx101 [212.227.17.168]) with ESMTPSA (Nemesis) id 0LlHsg-1fACr610li-00b3ao for ; Sun, 14 Jan 2018 06:33:31 +0100 Date: Sun, 14 Jan 2018 06:33:27 +0100 From: tuxic@posteo.de To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Firefox 57.0.4 without pulseaudio? Possible? Message-ID: <20180114053327.nbdclj3uzvv7qal3@solfire> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References:<20180114041742.m5g6tmj3yxd6hgpe@solfire> <649d4371-303c-5274-845d-6510fb661056@gmail.com> <20180114044910.dazd7sx44jtfwvlh@solfire> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit In-Reply-To: User-Agent: NeoMutt/20171208 Sender: X-Provags-ID: V03:K0:AazX5apg1AYeADCdc2Ozzv7fzWuhXAQmT1qS0Q+IErWAntD5gmW bQZ4rRmUcV+4u6XqxtvK83/jj0Fljyk9vIH6PJy+sQFEo2NuH6bK7zAbYyuv0zh7th3lTOQ hGgf60GBvPU0SVIVFQlya8KTD9Q7b8ykHwOlH3ILFW4D4/wtxA5AAj5a2ctDyWQJLIera8g Rlzh4i/iEzSkvbWO/uvng== X-UI-Out-Filterresults: notjunk:1;V01:K0:ytf5ozG0uy4=:mKtOgtnR94WD8U9OOam5qM WDIr4zvDLKq8SJJTJKN7M+QwQyblaA+reGLT9u/oRvoE2I3Qw8w2oZ49utepgSbt5Xgq7cF9G 41njvUr0PmUxzj8ly+FQCqwEOWBpXpCykRSPqDV1QjS1PGQG5KTMUzqYIXC/swbg0UKEhxhDD T//CgjYsumq9rXwyf1TRzbvqEy+H8YH9zcBtnJDjyuew1nEp6U00JPGFjBoGyxgIN3BYjhG6P 0Q3zt/xKT65wTXBT2i8c6n98DCgCXEC6GFSspU6WYiXUgA/HNxeqNtRfVS+XejsMrW5v6Ps98 ICsTdG1xaEyc/slUSs5frUesqLf583M2FVGfsqYQdeGdp4EGBqWlUNUgKdly9mSOfSe+kYdFc Hhesq7dejyJ6DJEMZAMY3MNaHyThnMpFhT8ARO+nHRXyX2invQXYpbKTBXkP2kfgjfin1TO0C n/ot1CGbM48hqJYjLMWmue6YB1OhlL/NWqPNAf9xsVEcMdLrph6BcoRgGm3qBSUgAXQXQSlTH MyMideKh6VaEv3gYTNJ25iAgYC9wvqTm0cwe8DKuBIL29mA5otCNqmRpF9KcEayAVDR2ELMci sQJ/CGb4YlTstIT4ykPSnZcla7xcs2ua68mBLzxy0sllkONnDR8a/S34iARxpXNnRTWBC+2ry 9GdswspNru+TkCUW89jrqE27u1dYexBUwCi8HPlJ8vEsD1Y/awtxPZ2xd+GpNAimRoqDQhHHU Z13F8KGW7BNEBbr/Nc7dqo/Sk3JoZxvSouJqU4HiF3VF6VOsm5srm+ypTkT3aRawQvaXqWD2F QnM4jbgzzlRbqd2JzTJmOSkxzD74Q== X-Archives-Salt: 798b1738-acbc-4efc-a47b-d432ac869606 X-Archives-Hash: 25026d86411d5e099ba4ab7c3df7b55a On 01/13 11:19, Dale wrote: > tuxic@posteo.de wrote: > > On 01/13 10:29, Dale wrote: > >> tuxic@posteo.de wrote: > >>> Hi, > >>> > >>> Is it posible to use Firefox wihout pulseaudio installed? > >>> If "yes" -- how can I acchieche this? > >>> > >>> Thanks a lot for any help in advance! > >>> > >>> Cheers! > >>> Meino > >>> > >> I found this.  > >> > >> https://codelab.wordpress.com/2017/12/11/firefox-drops-alsa-apulse-to-the-rescue/ > >> > >> > >> I read a bit and it may be interesting or may not but it seems to have > >> some sort of solution.  If it doesn't, my Firefox is likely to be quiet, > >> whether it wants to or not.  Then again, Palemoon may be a option if I > >> can get some addons to work.  > >> > >> Let's hope that helps, both of us.  :/ > >> > >> Dale > >> > >> :-)  :-)  > >> > > Hi Dale, > > > > thanks for the informations! > > > > I tried Palemoon some time ago. I checked its security and privacy > > feature with certain sites on the internet, which provide such > > services and found some issues, which I wanted to discuss on their > > forum. The answer was not to believe such sites and in result security > > would be a matter of how much I believe in a certain software. My > > understanding is, that security is no believe system but a matter of > > well done software engineering. Therefore I quit Palemoon and I am no > > longer interested in it. > > > > I looked into the linked page and interestingly the solution suggested > > is exactlu what makes me headaches now: I have a blocker: > > > > * Error: The above package list contains packages which cannot be > > * installed at the same time on the same system. > > > > (media-plugins/alsa-plugins-1.1.5:0/0::gentoo, installed) pulled in by > > >=media-plugins/alsa-plugins-1.0.27-r1[pulseaudio,abi_x86_32(-)?,abi_x86_64(-)?,abi_x86_x32(-)?,abi_mips_n32(-)?,abi_mips_n64(-)?,abi_mips_o32(-)?,abi_ppc_32(-)?,abi_ppc_64(-)?,abi_s390_32(-)?,abi_s390_64(-)?] (>=media-plugins/alsa-plugins-1.0.27-r1[pulseaudio,abi_x86_64(-)]) required by (media-sound/pulseaudio-11.1:0/0::gentoo, installed) > > media-plugins/alsa-plugins required by @selected > > > > (media-sound/apulse-0.1.10:0/0::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) pulled in by > > media-sound/apulse required by (www-client/firefox-bin-57.0.4-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed) > > > > > > ...and apulse is one of it. > > > > How can I get out of it? > > > > Cheers > > Meino > > > > I'm still on the older Firefox but I get this here: > > > root@fireball / # emerge -av apulse > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > Calculating dependencies... done! > [ebuild  N     ] media-sound/apulse-0.1.10::gentoo  ABI_X86="(64) -32 > (-x32)" 108 KiB > > Total: 1 package (1 new), Size of downloads: 108 KiB > > Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] n > > > If you are already on the newer Firefox, which I guess you are, then > that may be what makes it block things.  So, I tried this: > > > root@fireball / # emerge -av apulse firefox > > These are the packages that would be merged, in order: > > > Calculating dependencies... done! > [ebuild  N     ] media-sound/apulse-0.1.10::gentoo  ABI_X86="(64) -32 > (-x32)" 108 KiB > [ebuild   R   ~] www-client/firefox-56.0::x-portage [56.0::gentoo] > USE="dbus gmp-autoupdate nsplugin startup-notification system-harfbuzz > system-jpeg system-libevent system-libvpx system-sqlite -bindist > -custom-cflags -custom-optimization -debug -eme-free -hardened -hwaccel > -jack (-neon) -pgo -pulseaudio (-selinux) -system-icu {-test} -wifi" > L10N="-ach -af -an -ar -as -ast -az -bg -bn-BD -bn-IN -br -bs -ca -cak > -cs -cy -da -de -dsb -el -en-GB -en-ZA -eo -es-AR -es-CL -es-ES -es-MX > -et -eu -fa -ff -fi -fr -fy -ga -gd -gl -gn -gu -he -hi -hr -hsb -hu -hy > -id -is -it -ja -ka -kab -kk -km -kn -ko -lij -lt -lv -mai -mk -ml -mr > -ms -nb -nl -nn -or -pa -pl -pt-BR -pt-PT -rm -ro -ru -si -sk -sl -son > -sq -sr -sv -ta -te -th -tr -uk -uz -vi -xh -zh-CN -zh-TW" 249,404 KiB > > Total: 2 packages (1 new, 1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 249,512 KiB > > Would you like to merge these packages? [Yes/No] > > > For some reason, it likes the idea.  So, differences between us.  I > notice you are on a newer version of alsa than I am.  Here's mine:  > > > [IP-] [  ] media-libs/alsa-lib-1.1.2:0 > [IP-] [  ] media-sound/alsa-utils-1.1.2:0.9 > > > Could it be that it doesn't like the newer version of alsa, yet at > least?  Possible.  > > Does that help any?  Could you drop to that lower version of alsa and > see if it helps or is there a needed fix for you in that newer version?  > > Dale > > :-)  :-)  > > P. S.  Keep in mind, I'd like to get this to work here too later on.  ;-)  > Hi Dale, one problem here is, that I am using firefox-bin, because compiling firefox gave me compile errors in the past. One dependency of firefox-bin is....pulseaudio. Currently I am trying to compile firefox and will see how far it goes... Short question: What timezone you are? Cheers Meino