From: Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?
Date: Fri, 15 Dec 2017 09:28:00 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171215092800.41a1eaeb@digimed.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1520279.pxRNRXlmF5@eve>
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On Fri, 15 Dec 2017 07:38:01 +0100, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> > If you "rc-update del" a service, you wouldn't
> > prevent it from being started neither, just because OpenRC is still
> > able to pull it in as a dependency.
>
> True, except with OpenRC, all the config is located together. Not
> mostly in / usr/.... somewhere with overrides in /etc/...
> I dislike all tools that split their config in this way.
Conversely, I prefer it. The package defaults should be set in /usr, /etc
is for customisation. xorg works the same way with settings
in /etc/overriding those it /usr. It saves cluttering up /etc with tons
of default settings.
However, with both openrc and systemd you don't need to trawl the
filesystems to find the settings, using the provided tools, rc-update and
systemctl in this case, is both preferred and simpler.
One of the benefits, IMO, of systemd, is that it brings a consistency to
operations. In many cases the systemd tools do the same as their
non-systemd equivalents, but they follow a consistent style guide. Of
course, this means that they may work differently to the way you are used
to and there is definitely a learning curve in switching to systemd. I
also didn't discover mask/unmask for a while, only finding it when I was
looking for something else in a man page. Running a mixture of systemd and
openrc boxes, I more often find myself doing thing wrong on the openrc
boxes these days and missing systemd features.
--
Neil Bothwick
Puritanism: The haunting fear that someone, somewhere may be happy.
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2017-12-09 9:51 [gentoo-user] Is gnome becoming obligatory? Mick
2017-12-09 10:25 ` Alexander Kapshuk
2017-12-09 10:27 ` Alan McKinnon
2017-12-09 10:34 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2017-12-09 10:45 ` Mick
2017-12-09 12:00 ` Jorge Almeida
2017-12-09 23:36 ` Peter Humphrey
2017-12-10 6:12 ` R0b0t1
2017-12-10 8:54 ` Mick
2017-12-10 8:56 ` Jorge Almeida
2017-12-10 11:55 ` Mart Raudsepp
2017-12-10 12:03 ` Alan McKinnon
2017-12-10 12:11 ` karl
2017-12-10 21:01 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-12-10 21:55 ` Jorge Almeida
2017-12-11 3:31 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2017-12-11 4:37 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-12-11 5:06 ` Mike Gilbert
2017-12-11 5:31 ` R0b0t1
2017-12-11 11:42 ` Corbin
2017-12-11 11:59 ` Jorge Almeida
2017-12-11 12:39 ` Mick
2017-12-11 13:22 ` mad.scientist.at.large
2017-12-11 13:30 ` Richard Bradfield
2017-12-11 13:48 ` mad.scientist.at.large
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2017-12-11 14:04 ` mad.scientist.at.large
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2017-12-11 14:45 ` mad.scientist.at.large
2017-12-11 13:27 ` Kai Peter
2017-12-12 23:23 ` allan gottlieb
2017-12-13 8:06 ` Alan McKinnon
2017-12-13 11:04 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-13 11:46 ` Marc Joliet
2017-12-13 14:05 ` Dale
2017-12-14 7:54 ` J. Roeleveld
2017-12-15 3:05 ` Kai Krakow
2017-12-15 6:38 ` J. Roeleveld
2017-12-15 8:47 ` Kai Krakow
2017-12-15 9:28 ` Neil Bothwick [this message]
2017-12-14 16:03 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-12-15 0:35 ` Peter Humphrey
2017-12-15 1:12 ` R0b0t1
2017-12-15 1:25 ` Marc Joliet
2017-12-15 7:36 ` J. Roeleveld
2017-12-09 12:04 ` Taiidan
2017-12-09 12:08 ` Alan McKinnon
2017-12-10 9:55 ` Wols Lists
2017-12-10 10:13 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-10 21:02 ` Wols Lists
2017-12-10 23:08 ` Walter Dnes
2017-12-11 15:22 ` Tom H
2017-12-11 19:20 ` Wol's lists
2017-12-11 23:24 ` Peter Humphrey
2017-12-12 10:34 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-13 1:11 ` Peter Humphrey
2017-12-13 10:57 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-13 17:52 ` Walter Dnes
2017-12-14 6:26 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-12-12 3:51 ` mad.scientist.at.large
2017-12-11 18:56 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-11 21:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-11 22:00 ` Tom H
2017-12-11 22:29 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-12 12:09 ` Tom H
2017-12-12 12:11 ` Wols Lists
2017-12-12 12:23 ` Arve Barsnes
2017-12-12 7:01 ` J García
2017-12-12 10:32 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-12 18:55 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-12 20:11 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-12 20:11 ` Wols Lists
2017-12-13 0:02 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-13 14:01 ` Wols Lists
2017-12-13 14:06 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2017-12-13 15:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-13 22:18 ` Wols Lists
2017-12-13 11:34 ` Marc Joliet
2017-12-13 12:46 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-13 19:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-14 7:38 ` Kai Peter
2017-12-14 10:57 ` Marc Joliet
2017-12-14 15:52 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-12-15 1:16 ` Marc Joliet
2017-12-15 9:50 ` Wols Lists
2017-12-10 10:17 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2017-12-10 10:25 ` Jorge Almeida
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