From: Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?
Date: Tue, 12 Dec 2017 20:11:47 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20171212201147.0985f236@digimed.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20171212185515.GA5274@ACM>
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On Tue, 12 Dec 2017 18:55:15 +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote:
> You seem to know systemd reasonably well - maybe you've got it
> installed and you're using it. Please tell me whether my suspicion
> above (that systemd builds stuff into the system that is likely to be
> superfluous to a user, and possibly forces its use on its users) is well
> founded.
Of course it does, any collection of utilities is bound to include stuff
you don't need. This includes systemd as well as the likes of coreutils
and util-linux. The number of programs that you are forced to use after
installation is exactly zero, although most people that install systemd
do so because they want to use at least part of it, and are happy using
the parts they want. For example, I'm happy with systemd's network
management and time sync tools so I use them. I find systemd timers
unnecessarily complex for my needs so I stick with cron for that.
--
Neil Bothwick
Top Oxymorons Number 38: Government organization
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2017-12-09 9:51 [gentoo-user] Is gnome becoming obligatory? Mick
2017-12-09 10:25 ` Alexander Kapshuk
2017-12-09 10:27 ` Alan McKinnon
2017-12-09 10:34 ` [gentoo-user] " Nikos Chantziaras
2017-12-09 10:45 ` Mick
2017-12-09 12:00 ` Jorge Almeida
2017-12-09 23:36 ` Peter Humphrey
2017-12-10 6:12 ` R0b0t1
2017-12-10 8:54 ` Mick
2017-12-10 8:56 ` Jorge Almeida
2017-12-10 11:55 ` Mart Raudsepp
2017-12-10 12:03 ` Alan McKinnon
2017-12-10 12:11 ` karl
2017-12-10 21:01 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-12-10 21:55 ` Jorge Almeida
2017-12-11 3:31 ` Canek Peláez Valdés
2017-12-11 4:37 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-12-11 5:06 ` Mike Gilbert
2017-12-11 5:31 ` R0b0t1
2017-12-11 11:42 ` Corbin
2017-12-11 11:59 ` Jorge Almeida
2017-12-11 12:39 ` Mick
2017-12-11 13:22 ` mad.scientist.at.large
2017-12-11 13:30 ` Richard Bradfield
2017-12-11 13:48 ` mad.scientist.at.large
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2017-12-11 14:04 ` mad.scientist.at.large
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2017-12-11 14:45 ` mad.scientist.at.large
2017-12-11 13:27 ` Kai Peter
2017-12-12 23:23 ` allan gottlieb
2017-12-13 8:06 ` Alan McKinnon
2017-12-13 11:04 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-13 11:46 ` Marc Joliet
2017-12-13 14:05 ` Dale
2017-12-14 7:54 ` J. Roeleveld
2017-12-15 3:05 ` Kai Krakow
2017-12-15 6:38 ` J. Roeleveld
2017-12-15 8:47 ` Kai Krakow
2017-12-15 9:28 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-14 16:03 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-12-15 0:35 ` Peter Humphrey
2017-12-15 1:12 ` R0b0t1
2017-12-15 1:25 ` Marc Joliet
2017-12-15 7:36 ` J. Roeleveld
2017-12-09 12:04 ` Taiidan
2017-12-09 12:08 ` Alan McKinnon
2017-12-10 9:55 ` Wols Lists
2017-12-10 10:13 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-10 21:02 ` Wols Lists
2017-12-10 23:08 ` Walter Dnes
2017-12-11 15:22 ` Tom H
2017-12-11 19:20 ` Wol's lists
2017-12-11 23:24 ` Peter Humphrey
2017-12-12 10:34 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-13 1:11 ` Peter Humphrey
2017-12-13 10:57 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-13 17:52 ` Walter Dnes
2017-12-14 6:26 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-12-12 3:51 ` mad.scientist.at.large
2017-12-11 18:56 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-11 21:03 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-11 22:00 ` Tom H
2017-12-11 22:29 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-12 12:09 ` Tom H
2017-12-12 12:11 ` Wols Lists
2017-12-12 12:23 ` Arve Barsnes
2017-12-12 7:01 ` J García
2017-12-12 10:32 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-12 18:55 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-12 20:11 ` Neil Bothwick [this message]
2017-12-12 20:11 ` Wols Lists
2017-12-13 0:02 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-13 14:01 ` Wols Lists
2017-12-13 14:06 ` Alon Bar-Lev
2017-12-13 15:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-13 22:18 ` Wols Lists
2017-12-13 11:34 ` Marc Joliet
2017-12-13 12:46 ` Neil Bothwick
2017-12-13 19:37 ` Alan Mackenzie
2017-12-14 7:38 ` Kai Peter
2017-12-14 10:57 ` Marc Joliet
2017-12-14 15:52 ` Ian Zimmerman
2017-12-15 1:16 ` Marc Joliet
2017-12-15 9:50 ` Wols Lists
2017-12-10 10:17 ` Nikos Chantziaras
2017-12-10 10:25 ` Jorge Almeida
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