Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

[Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>]

Hello.

On Tue, Dec 12, 2017 at 01:01:29 -0600, J García wrote:
> 2017-12-11 15:03 GMT-06:00 Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>:
> > OK.  But it's still there taking up RAM, and (more importantly) makes a
> > systemd system a broader target for attacks.  Whether a system has an
> > http server (or, for that matter, an SSH server), for whatever purpose,
> > should be for the system administrator to decide.  I suspect this isn't
> > the case for systemd's http server.

>  Too much suspicion, too much assumtions,

One doesn't get by in contemporary life without them.  My suspicion,
founded on the content of a normally reliable mailing list (this one) is
that systemd would (i) build into my system much that I don't want to
use; (ii) would force me into using some of that stuff.  openrc doesn't
have these attributes.

> $ equery  -N u systemd  | grep http
>  - - http       : Enable embedded HTTP server in journald

> $ grep -C 2 http $PORTDIR/sys-apps/systemd/systemd-235-r1.ebuild

> 42:    http? (
> 43:        >=net-libs/libmicrohttpd-0.9.33:0=
> 44-        ssl? ( >=net-libs/gnutls-3.1.4:0= )
> 45-    )


> 42:    http? (
> 43:        >=net-libs/libmicrohttpd-0.9.33:0=
> 44-        ssl? ( >=net-libs/gnutls-3.1.4:0= )
> 45-    )

> I prefer certainty, don't you?

If certainty were free of costs, or even cheap, then yes.

> It is actually more useful to check the software, than lose your time
> with so many words on this list.

No, it would take far too much time and effort to check out the
software, particularly for something I have no use for.

You seem to know systemd reasonably well - maybe you've got it
installed and you're using it.  Please tell me whether my suspicion
above (that systemd builds stuff into the system that is likely to be
superfluous to a user, and possibly forces its use on its users) is well
founded.

Thanks!

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).