Re: [gentoo-user] Re: Is gnome becoming obligatory?

[Alan Mackenzie <acm@muc.de>]

Hello, Neil.

On Mon, Dec 11, 2017 at 18:56:15 +0000, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 10 Dec 2017 10:13:30 +0000, Alan Mackenzie wrote:

> > I've no idea how good systemd is.  It's not been through the normal
> > process of choice and selection that other successful packages have.  It
> > was forced on people.  But being forced to have a binary system log,
> > being forced (so I have heard) to have an http server running, ....,

> This may come as a surprise to some, but some things you hear on
> t'internet are not true...

:-)

> For example, the http server is there to allow access to logs from
> another machine without needing to grant SSH access. It is not enabled by
> default.

OK.  But it's still there taking up RAM, and (more importantly) makes a
systemd system a broader target for attacks.  Whether a system has an
http server (or, for that matter, an SSH server), for whatever purpose,
should be for the system administrator to decide.  I suspect this isn't
the case for systemd's http server.

In any case, I don't want an http server on my system: I have no http to
serve.  I installed sshd as one of the first things on my new system, to
facilitate the transfer of files to it (and, probably, reading logs from
it remotely).

I don't want a binary logging daemon either: that means having to learn
a special purpose utility to be able to read its logs, and, in general,
not being able to read that log from a remote machine.

There are likely other inflexibilities about systemd that I don't want
either.  That's one reason why I'm sticking with openrc.  The politics
of it is another.

> -- 
> Neil Bothwick

-- 
Alan Mackenzie (Nuremberg, Germany).