[gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

[gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

[tuxic]

Hi,

I got an archive (???) of an Linux application, which
has the extension "*.AppImage".

What is that?
Is it possible to "unpack" that into something more common?
How to handle that?

Thanks a lot for any help in advance!

Cheers
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

[Tom H]

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:20 AM,  <tuxic@posteo.de> wrote:
>
> I got an archive (???) of an Linux application, which
> has the extension "*.AppImage".
>
> What is that?
>
> Is it possible to "unpack" that into something more common?
> How to handle that?

Does it use this spec?

https://appimage.org/

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

[tuxic]

On 11/05 06:29, Tom H wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:20 AM,  <tuxic@posteo.de> wrote:
> >
> > I got an archive (???) of an Linux application, which
> > has the extension "*.AppImage".
> >
> > What is that?
> >
> > Is it possible to "unpack" that into something more common?
> > How to handle that?
> 
> Does it use this spec?
> 
> https://appimage.org/
> 

Dont know...
How can I unpack that to look into it?

Cheers
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

[Tom H]

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM, <tuxic@posteo.de> wrote:
> On 11/05 06:29, Tom H wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:20 AM, <tuxic@posteo.de> wrote:
>>>
>>> I got an archive (???) of an Linux application, which
>>> has the extension "*.AppImage".
>>>
>>> What is that?
>>>
>>> Is it possible to "unpack" that into something more common?
>>> How to handle that?
>>
>> Does it use this spec?
>>
>> https://appimage.org/
>
> Dont know...
> How can I unpack that to look into it?

From
https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit

wget "https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/releases/download/continuous/appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage"
etc...

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

[tuxic]

On 11/05 07:21, Tom H wrote:
> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM, <tuxic@posteo.de> wrote:
> > On 11/05 06:29, Tom H wrote:
> >> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:20 AM, <tuxic@posteo.de> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> I got an archive (???) of an Linux application, which
> >>> has the extension "*.AppImage".
> >>>
> >>> What is that?
> >>>
> >>> Is it possible to "unpack" that into something more common?
> >>> How to handle that?
> >>
> >> Does it use this spec?
> >>
> >> https://appimage.org/
> >
> > Dont know...
> > How can I unpack that to look into it?
> 
> From
> https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit
> 
> wget "https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/releases/download/continuous/appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage"
> etc...
> 


./appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage TestApp/.
WARNING: appstreamcli is missing, please install it if you want to use AppStream metadata
appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage is a file, assuming it is an AppImage and should be unpacked
To be implemented

unpacking is not implemented yet.

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

[Alan McKinnon]

On 05/11/2017 15:48, tuxic@posteo.de wrote:
> On 11/05 07:21, Tom H wrote:
>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM, <tuxic@posteo.de> wrote:
>>> On 11/05 06:29, Tom H wrote:
>>>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:20 AM, <tuxic@posteo.de> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> I got an archive (???) of an Linux application, which
>>>>> has the extension "*.AppImage".
>>>>>
>>>>> What is that?
>>>>>
>>>>> Is it possible to "unpack" that into something more common?
>>>>> How to handle that?
>>>>
>>>> Does it use this spec?
>>>>
>>>> https://appimage.org/
>>>
>>> Dont know...
>>> How can I unpack that to look into it?
>>
>> From
>> https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit
>>
>> wget "https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/releases/download/continuous/appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage"
>> etc...
>>
> 
> 
> ./appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage TestApp/.
> WARNING: appstreamcli is missing, please install it if you want to use AppStream metadata
> appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage is a file, assuming it is an AppImage and should be unpacked
> To be implemented
> 
> unpacking is not implemented yet.


Reading only this thread, it looks like an upstream used a horribly
incomplete scheme for distribution that isn't even ready for launch.

And yet they distribute using it.

I would be questioning why I'm using that upstream's project at all, and
find something better by an author with more clue.

Am I missing something?


-- 
Alan McKinnon
alan.mckinnon@gmail.com

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

[tuxic]

On 11/05 04:46, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> On 05/11/2017 15:48, tuxic@posteo.de wrote:
> > On 11/05 07:21, Tom H wrote:
> >> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM, <tuxic@posteo.de> wrote:
> >>> On 11/05 06:29, Tom H wrote:
> >>>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:20 AM, <tuxic@posteo.de> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I got an archive (???) of an Linux application, which
> >>>>> has the extension "*.AppImage".
> >>>>>
> >>>>> What is that?
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Is it possible to "unpack" that into something more common?
> >>>>> How to handle that?
> >>>>
> >>>> Does it use this spec?
> >>>>
> >>>> https://appimage.org/
> >>>
> >>> Dont know...
> >>> How can I unpack that to look into it?
> >>
> >> From
> >> https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit
> >>
> >> wget "https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/releases/download/continuous/appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage"
> >> etc...
> >>
> > 
> > 
> > ./appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage TestApp/.
> > WARNING: appstreamcli is missing, please install it if you want to use AppStream metadata
> > appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage is a file, assuming it is an AppImage and should be unpacked
> > To be implemented
> > 
> > unpacking is not implemented yet.
> 
> 
> Reading only this thread, it looks like an upstream used a horribly
> incomplete scheme for distribution that isn't even ready for launch.
> 
> And yet they distribute using it.
> 
> I would be questioning why I'm using that upstream's project at all, and
> find something better by an author with more clue.
> 
> Am I missing something?
> 
> 
> -- 
> Alan McKinnon
> alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
> 
> 

As so often, the persons 'up' in the hierarch decide things the people
'down' the hierarchy would keep their fingers off - but they will not
be asked.

I am 'down' the hierarchy and want to unpack that
archive/image/whatever.

Currently I am recompiling my kernel to support squashfs as it seems
that this image is one of that images.
If so, mounting it as an image and copying the files out of the
mountpoints directory may work.

Fingers crossed...

Cheers
Meino

[gentoo-user] How to crack open an *.AppImage Was: [OT] AppImage? What's that?

[tuxic]

On 11/05 04:04, tuxic@posteo.de wrote:
> On 11/05 04:46, Alan McKinnon wrote:
> > On 05/11/2017 15:48, tuxic@posteo.de wrote:
> > > On 11/05 07:21, Tom H wrote:
> > >> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 7:11 AM, <tuxic@posteo.de> wrote:
> > >>> On 11/05 06:29, Tom H wrote:
> > >>>> On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:20 AM, <tuxic@posteo.de> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> I got an archive (???) of an Linux application, which
> > >>>>> has the extension "*.AppImage".
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> What is that?
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> Is it possible to "unpack" that into something more common?
> > >>>>> How to handle that?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Does it use this spec?
> > >>>>
> > >>>> https://appimage.org/
> > >>>
> > >>> Dont know...
> > >>> How can I unpack that to look into it?
> > >>
> > >> From
> > >> https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit
> > >>
> > >> wget "https://github.com/AppImage/AppImageKit/releases/download/continuous/appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage"
> > >> etc...
> > >>
> > > 
> > > 
> > > ./appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage TestApp/.
> > > WARNING: appstreamcli is missing, please install it if you want to use AppStream metadata
> > > appimagetool-x86_64.AppImage is a file, assuming it is an AppImage and should be unpacked
> > > To be implemented
> > > 
> > > unpacking is not implemented yet.
> > 
> > 
> > Reading only this thread, it looks like an upstream used a horribly
> > incomplete scheme for distribution that isn't even ready for launch.
> > 
> > And yet they distribute using it.
> > 
> > I would be questioning why I'm using that upstream's project at all, and
> > find something better by an author with more clue.
> > 
> > Am I missing something?
> > 
> > 
> > -- 
> > Alan McKinnon
> > alan.mckinnon@gmail.com
> > 
> > 
> 
> As so often, the persons 'up' in the hierarch decide things the people
> 'down' the hierarchy would keep their fingers off - but they will not
> be asked.
> 
> I am 'down' the hierarchy and want to unpack that
> archive/image/whatever.
> 
> Currently I am recompiling my kernel to support squashfs as it seems
> that this image is one of that images.
> If so, mounting it as an image and copying the files out of the
> mountpoints directory may work.
> 
> Fingers crossed...
> 
> Cheers
> Meino
> 
> 

OK, I have found a way -- for all hesitating with this
closed-opensource AppImage-blobs:

chmod file.AppImage
./file.AppImage # wait ...
mount # find mount point of this sealed bag,,,mine was /tmp/.mount-someting
cp -a /tmp/.mount-something ~/somesaveplace
<quit the application started by file.AppImage here>

That's it.
Happy tinkering!

Cheers
Meino

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

[Rich Freeman]

On Sun, Nov 5, 2017 at 6:46 AM, Alan McKinnon <alan.mckinnon@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 05/11/2017 15:48, tuxic@posteo.de wrote:
>>
>> unpacking is not implemented yet.
>
>
> Reading only this thread, it looks like an upstream used a horribly
> incomplete scheme for distribution that isn't even ready for launch.
>
> And yet they distribute using it.
>

Nah, they just don't consider extracting the stuff without running it
important.  Nor apparently do they consider it important to support
the 0.1% of Linux users on a distro that doesn't support appimage
(just a rough estimate based by all the logos on their webpage - I
can't vouch for how well it works on the distros they list).

The concept behind it isn't terrible, but if you want to use it your
first step is to get it packaged/working on Gentoo.  I don't see any
reason that this couldn't be done - it just probably doesn't scratch
many Gentoo user's itches.

-- 
Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] [OT] AppImage? What's that?

[Peter Humphrey]

On Sun, 5 Nov 2017 16:46:07 +0200

> Reading only this thread, it looks like an upstream used a horribly
> incomplete scheme for distribution that isn't even ready for launch.

What, like KDE-4, KDE-plasma, ... ?

-- 
Regards,
Peter.