From mboxrd@z Thu Jan  1 00:00:00 1970
Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-180631-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org>
Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80])
	(using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits))
	(No client certificate requested)
	by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 0503E1396D9
	for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Wed,  1 Nov 2017 13:47:18 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1])
	by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id A0CF7E0EA0;
	Wed,  1 Nov 2017 13:47:11 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from smarthost03a.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost03a.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.1.20])
	(using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits))
	(No client certificate requested)
	by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 45EAAE0849
	for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Wed,  1 Nov 2017 13:47:10 +0000 (UTC)
Received: from [82.69.80.10] (helo=peak.prhnet)
	by smarthost03a.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80)
	(envelope-from <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk>)
	id 1e9tML-0008JM-DL
	for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Wed, 01 Nov 2017 13:47:09 +0000
Date: Wed, 1 Nov 2017 13:47:09 +0000
From: Peter Humphrey <peter@prh.myzen.co.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to knutclient
Message-ID: <20171101134709.5f126a41@peak.prhnet>
In-Reply-To: <59F9C201.6090203@youngman.org.uk>
References: <1922379.ZbMImBqxyj@dell_xps>
	<924d1b49-16ef-52ce-57c2-5f6e838cbf8d@gmail.com>
	<<924d1b49-16ef-52ce-57c2-5f6e838cbf8d@gmail.com>
	<20171030091007.03b2076d@peak.prhnet>
	<<20171030091007.03b2076d@peak.prhnet>
	<71878972.4tTIccPE0R@dell_xps>
	<<71878972.4tTIccPE0R@dell_xps>
	<514fb8df-3d93-7368-963b-41dcb08762ce@gmail.com>
	<<514fb8df-3d93-7368-963b-41dcb08762ce@gmail.com>
	<2704889.g4SM65V9YC@dell_xps>
	<<2704889.g4SM65V9YC@dell_xps>
	<e1d626a5-dd8d-1e92-5aa6-f434c9ec30fb@gmail.com>
	<<e1d626a5-dd8d-1e92-5aa6-f434c9ec30fb@gmail.com>
	<CAGfcS_k-+3JZ6VzmTRM2MYY+n=Y4Y0WHgi_qLzvcxGEDm3TA_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<<CAGfcS_k-+3JZ6VzmTRM2MYY+n=Y4Y0WHgi_qLzvcxGEDm3TA_Q@mail.gmail.com>
	<e3de6872-1ac0-fc43-9bbd-89cb825e468f@gmail.com>
	<<e3de6872-1ac
 0-fc43-9bbd-89cb825e468f@gmail.com>
	<11705523.yOAOuWsGJo@dell_xps>
	<KxjkiLT--3-0@tutanota.com>
	<59F8B401.2050503@youngman.org.uk>
	<20171031232958.18a7cefa@peak.prhnet>
	<59F9C201.6090203@youngman.org.uk>
X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu)
Precedence: bulk
List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org>
List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org>
X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
X-Originating-smarthost03a-IP: [82.69.80.10]
Feedback-ID: 82.69.80.10
X-Archives-Salt: 152cd8b7-08dd-4105-8265-35e34a0caa3f
X-Archives-Hash: 421b9e7cdca06874ed54e3cb4609a44d

On Wed, 1 Nov 2017 12:45:53 +0000

> You would have thought it was easy to take a spur off of a socket that's
> part of a ring main,

It used to be easy enough - provided that the spur had no more than two
single sockets or one double. Maybe the regs have changed yet again.

> but believe me, as an amateur sparky it's NOT! They
> sell special points - often with a switch - to take a feed off a ring,
> and they all have a - mandatory - 16Amp fuse. Or they might take a
> standard 13Amp fuse.

I've never seen anything like that, but then I've been retired for 29
years. Come to think of it, that's long enough to include several changes
of the regs. One wonders just where it's all going to end.
 
-- 
Regards,
Peter.