From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 87E9D1396D9 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2017 23:30:08 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 7DB41E0C2F; Tue, 31 Oct 2017 23:30:01 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost03b.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost03b.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.1.21]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES128-SHA256 (128/128 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 1348BE0C01 for ; Tue, 31 Oct 2017 23:30:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [82.69.80.10] (helo=peak.prhnet) by smarthost03b.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtp (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1e9fyo-0006mC-SM for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Tue, 31 Oct 2017 23:29:58 +0000 Date: Tue, 31 Oct 2017 23:29:58 +0000 From: Peter Humphrey To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Alternatives to knutclient Message-ID: <20171031232958.18a7cefa@peak.prhnet> In-Reply-To: <59F8B401.2050503@youngman.org.uk> References: <1922379.ZbMImBqxyj@dell_xps> <59F62591.2070003@youngman.org.uk> <<59F62591.2070003@youngman.org.uk> <924d1b49-16ef-52ce-57c2-5f6e838cbf8d@gmail.com> <<924d1b49-16ef-52ce-57c2-5f6e838cbf8d@gmail.com> <20171030091007.03b2076d@peak.prhnet> <<20171030091007.03b2076d@peak.prhnet> <71878972.4tTIccPE0R@dell_xps> <<71878972.4tTIccPE0R@dell_xps> <514fb8df-3d93-7368-963b-41dcb08762ce@gmail.com> <<514fb8df-3d93-7368-963b-41dcb08762ce@gmail.com> <2704889.g4SM65V9YC@dell_xps> <<2704889.g4SM65V9YC@dell_xps> < < < <11705523.yOAOuWsGJo@dell_xps> <59F8B401.2050503@youngman.org.uk> X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.13.2 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit X-Originating-smarthost03b-IP: [82.69.80.10] Feedback-ID: 82.69.80.10 X-Archives-Salt: 4a50c9ef-4368-47e5-a075-42d071596a09 X-Archives-Hash: 002724a11f7cd6239b7bbc2b4a3ce1e0 On Tue, 31 Oct 2017 17:33:53 +0000 Wols Lists wrote: > In the UK at least also, we have ring mains. These are rated at 30 Amps, > from which you can take a 13 Amp feed from any socket. Once you start > taking power over multiple leads the wiring has more resistance, plugs > introduce resistance, etc, and the voltage can drop rapidly. I've never seen that, nor heard of it. It sounds like a major fire risk too, which the wiring regs would never countenance. > (It is mandatory, according to code, if you hard-wire a feed off a ring > you must separate it with a 16 Amp fuse.) I don't recognise that either. It sounds like a special case to me. And where do I buy a 16A fuse? > I've never seen one, but I would have thought a motor/generator pair > with a hefty flywheel would provide very good surge/spike/whatever > protection, and provide nice clean power. Plus, it would be unlikely to > burn out if you had to provide protection from several big consecutive > shocks, like a lightning strike. Just think of the noise though, and the expense. -- Regards, Peter.