From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 3A26C139085 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 01:16:00 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 58247E0C04; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 01:15:51 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alt1.smtp7.plusvps.com (alt1.smtp7.plusvps.com [89.201.164.171]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA67DE0BD4 for ; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 01:15:49 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lin16.mojsite.com ([178.218.164.164]) by smtp7.plusvps.com with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1cMlnO-000FcQ-6v for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 02:15:46 +0100 Received: from 78-1-182-122.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([78.1.182.122]:47362 helo=g0n.localdomain) by lin16.mojsite.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cMlnN-0006LG-DW for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 02:15:45 +0100 Received: by g0n.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D0C694D; Fri, 30 Dec 2016 02:15:59 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 30 Dec 2016 02:15:59 +0100 From: Miroslav Rovis To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No Message-ID: <20161230011559.GB12603@g0n.xdwgrp> References: <20161221234653.24de1d1c@digimed.co.uk> <87inqcr6vt.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <20161222085646.414fa0e4@digimed.co.uk> <87fuleozre.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <877f6mjw8d.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> <20161227113338.30e619b8@digimed.co.uk> <874m1pw6dg.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-PlusHosting-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details, Found to be clean X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Spam-Status: No, No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - lin16.mojsite.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - croatiafidelis.hr X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: lin16.mojsite.com: authenticated_id: miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr X-Authenticated-Sender: lin16.mojsite.com: miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-ID: 1cMlnO-000FcQ-6v X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-From: miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr X-Archives-Salt: 1af502a4-795c-43ec-9329-28c292f7e589 X-Archives-Hash: 1dbc9ad075d8361993318dbd92d234df --3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 161229-05:13-0500, Tom H wrote: > On Tue, Dec 27, 2016 at 1:53 PM, lee wrote: > > Neil Bothwick writes: > >> > There are two ways to ensure that you always have the kernel's names: >=20 > 1) Add "net.ifnames=3D0" to the kernel cmdline I use that all the time. Of course, I don't use the below, no poetterware in my machine: > 2) Override "NamePolicy=3D..." in "/lib/systemd/network/99-default.link" > with "NamePolicy=3Dkernel" in "/etc/systemd/network/99-default.link". >=20 But I respect if anybody else wants it, let them have it, just, allow free speech, as you, _mostly_, do, id est, to tell people unintrusively what that SystemDisaster is... And, I've been following this discussion, and firmly on the side which wants to keep Gentoo in the beautiful Unix tradition, but... I was wondering, since to get a reply about the original question is pretty difficult ( not all being open and available to know about it? Mozilla itself actually uncertain about alsa/pulse in its future? whatever, cannot spend anymore time on it, I moved, see below... ) , and maybe 3 percent of the text in the thread was on topic ( which is still: =66rom Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 ) and the rest was about other matters... I was wondering why hasn't anybody finally changed that subject line. Some = of the emails of the thread are fine information, but like this, they are completely misplaced on principle which is, the principle: the subject line should be what the emails in a thread are about... And in this thread they are not well over 90% of the emails! ( I changed the subject line when I departed, and the threat of imposition of Pulseaudio to Linux users of Firefox has resulted in Pale Moon having a happy users and a supporter, Mozilla, you should not have insisted on that stupid impositions!... My split thread subject lines are: Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/320799 ( Message-ID: <20161218055009.GA11155@g0n.xdwgrp> ) and Pale Moon Air-Gapped portage EAPI 6 Install http://www.gossamer-threads.com/lists/gentoo/user/321074 ( Message-ID: <20161223043823.GA9835@g0n.xdwgrp> ) ) Thanks again to our developers who keep to the matchless Unix tradition, and allow such great choice in Gentoo (also to the other, poetterware side, as in choice, if you will)! --=20 Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr --3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYZbVPAAoJEOqYhIhPuvCunu4P/1eEkFWOe/0C8CsFrDhtxm51 ZmqbtAK6j0U+cAcRQSTkv+4XltrBX9X/EEpD7Ifmahpask4Mq59PwnLNYgZ4UiIO XHBlAQVLOh6NV85v578ItYCWfMx48wDk1PSegLdgNDBpPTNhi3eRHFteKGg3U+Ie OuOB4P6OfuYCszG7qFr9w3RrKEWRI1eik0S1B+iCbJCC4wNAg6Hm2b3f3g/m5vhb TWBXtE+1QJ4r9GaZr6GcVVaA+2T4KOXOt5Kcr6Aw1AY14VwGDrKdjY3EtWNYu6ik rfre/OZbPO/iSO4C/snm3AIxw/Rt1nQv7tutGJS6F8KiQZjliqdGJ7a6k8WR6lJF R/9/u4Nw5ielIU6W6M6bsRRUcZf3eyPj2JskLUcbPh6wbjxbboe+FkCYrO+6AVrg L1/dvLOQcbENjCAYWbpUqSULNh7shxUfnC+Rn4XfOmL0PE8R5+z9Q6r63HpY20W2 jR5N4wyVtrlDaCCFQYfEV128T5g7ZZLIhIUjNPmWwb3pgzIOyicLRZaYwdp1cNSk mLMqcXHJS0gT9AvXtb4OJ6MEteewPGKu10eNEVhWZs8laAZ6g17IO/co6NSyBY/F LMuVs/8k8nZ5SE1YKJeSZbFF1f8dktVY0r5qcB6QORO8JDZBTSAce7FdNDnmhPCh 74/oSouHGarV1wAGrf/C =oJLc -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --3lcZGd9BuhuYXNfi--