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From: Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No
Date: Tue, 27 Dec 2016 11:33:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161227113338.30e619b8@digimed.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <877f6mjw8d.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de>

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On Mon, 26 Dec 2016 21:01:22 +0100, lee wrote:

> > AFAIK, you have three possibilities.
> >
> > 1) If you're renaming a NIC via its MAC address, you have to edit the
> > config file thatlinks the NIC's names and its MAC address.
> >
> > 2) If you're using udev's predictable names, the NIC'll have the same
> > (more or less complex) name if you use the same slot.
> >
> > 3) If you're using the kernel names, you have no guarantee that ethX
> > will be assigned to the same NIC at every bot.  
> 
> So there's no good option because names may change unless you make and
> maintain an assignment.  I wonder why that isn't the default ...

I would imagine because it cannot be used without some initial
configuration. The default provides the greatest reliability out of the
box, at the expense of less readable (which is not the same as
unrecognisable, a value judgement you are imposing on the names) names.

There is nothing wrong with wanting things to work as you do, but it
requires input to do so. It you have to start editing files to make it
work properly, there is little point in making it the default.


-- 
Neil Bothwick

GOTO: (n.) an efficient and general way of controlling a program, much
despised by academics and others whose brains have been ruined by
overexposure to Pascal.

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  reply	other threads:[~2016-12-27 11:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 272+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2016-10-15 18:27 [gentoo-user] Firefox 49.0 & Youtube....Video: Yes - Audio: No Meino.Cramer
2016-10-16  4:55 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-10-16  6:48   ` Meino.Cramer
2016-10-16  6:59     ` Jigme Datse Yli-RAsku
2016-10-16  7:33       ` Meino.Cramer
2016-10-16  7:44       ` Meino.Cramer
2016-11-19  6:11     ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-11-19  8:33       ` Daniel Campbell
2016-11-19  9:22         ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-11-19  9:59           ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-11-20  8:10             ` Daniel Campbell
2016-11-20 19:46               ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-11-28 16:30               ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-11-28 21:54                 ` [gentoo-user] " Ian Zimmerman
2016-11-28 22:31                   ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-11-29  7:51                 ` [gentoo-user] " Daniel Campbell
2016-11-30 22:34                   ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-10-16 23:43   ` [gentoo-user] " Ian Zimmerman
2016-10-16 13:17 ` [gentoo-user] " David M. Fellows
2016-12-16 10:19 ` [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... " Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-16 10:54   ` John Covici
2016-12-16 11:02     ` Arve Barsnes
2016-12-16 12:16   ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-16 13:13     ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-16 13:35       ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-16 16:51         ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-16 19:16           ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-16 20:12             ` [gentoo-user] " Ian Zimmerman
2016-12-16 20:39               ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-16 22:55                 ` Ian Zimmerman
2016-12-16 23:58                   ` [gentoo-user] X w/o suid root [Was: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?] Ian Zimmerman
2016-12-17  1:12                     ` Simon Thelen
2016-12-18  5:35                       ` [gentoo-user] Re: X w/o suid root Ian Zimmerman
2016-12-19  6:43                         ` Ian Zimmerman
2016-12-19 23:35                           ` Ian Zimmerman
2016-12-20 16:19                             ` Michael Mol
2016-12-17  2:04                   ` [gentoo-user] Re: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No Taiidan
2016-12-17  3:11                     ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-17  3:49                       ` R0b0t1
2016-12-17  9:03                     ` Daniel Campbell
2016-12-18  7:39                     ` Tom H
2016-12-17  8:29               ` Tom H
2016-12-16 21:10             ` [gentoo-user] " R0b0t1
2016-12-16 22:27             ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-17  5:59               ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-17  8:08                 ` Taiidan
2016-12-17 19:56                   ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-17 22:44                 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-17 23:25                   ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-18  1:56                     ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-18  2:02                       ` Taiidan
2016-12-18  5:50                       ` [gentoo-user] Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon, WAS: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA? " Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-18  7:04                         ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-18 18:16                           ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-18 18:43                             ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-18 20:29                               ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-19 11:16                                 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-19 17:17                                   ` [gentoo-user] Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-19 17:43                                     ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-19 23:33                                       ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-20 15:10                                         ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-19 12:25                                 ` [gentoo-user] Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon, WAS: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA? Youtube... Audio: No Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-20  8:00                                   ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-20 15:07                                     ` [gentoo-user] Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-21  0:17                                     ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-21  2:30                                       ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-24 17:38                                         ` [gentoo-user] " Ian Zimmerman
2016-12-24 19:31                                           ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-23  4:38                                       ` [gentoo-user] Pale Moon Air-Gapped portage EAPI 6 Install WAS: [Logging] SSL with PM Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-23 16:58                                         ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-24  7:29                                           ` Daniel Campbell
2016-12-24 17:23                                             ` Miroslav Rovis
2017-01-11  5:50                                           ` Miroslav Rovis
2017-02-19 11:02                                             ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-18  9:43                   ` [gentoo-user] Re: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No Martin Vaeth
2016-12-17  5:55             ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2016-12-17  8:53               ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-17  9:36                 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-12-17 13:09                   ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-18  7:45                   ` Tom H
2016-12-18  8:23                     ` Daniel Campbell
2016-12-18 15:16                       ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-18 16:47                         ` lee
2016-12-18 16:56                           ` Dutch Ingraham
2016-12-18 21:09                             ` lee
2016-12-18 18:26                           ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-18 21:34                             ` lee
2016-12-18 22:48                               ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-19 16:55                                 ` lee
2016-12-18 16:52                         ` Daniel Campbell
2016-12-17 12:35                 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-17 13:17                   ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-17 14:35                     ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-17 14:58                       ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-17 18:20                         ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-17 19:34                           ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-17 21:57                           ` Marc Joliet
2016-12-17 23:17                             ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-17 23:23                               ` Andrej Rode
2016-12-17 23:36                                 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-19  9:37                                   ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-19 22:34                                     ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-19 23:56                                       ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-19 14:52                                   ` Marc Joliet
2016-12-19 15:19                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-19 15:48                                       ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-20 16:33                                     ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-20 16:47                                       ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-20 17:44                                         ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-20 17:57                                           ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-20 18:07                                             ` Kai Peter
2016-12-20 18:20                                             ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-20 22:51                                             ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-21  2:33                                               ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-21  3:49                                                 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-12-21 12:53                                                   ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-22  1:19                                                     ` Daniel Campbell
2016-12-22  9:43                                                       ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-21 12:36                                                 ` Tanstaafl
2016-12-21 13:03                                                   ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-21 18:56                                                     ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-21 19:31                                                       ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-21 21:18                                                         ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-22  1:40                                                       ` Daniel Campbell
2016-12-21 12:09                                             ` karl
2016-12-21 13:27                                               ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-21 13:36                                               ` Corbin Bird
2016-12-21 14:28                                                 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-21 15:04                                                   ` Corbin Bird
2016-12-21 19:00                                                   ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-22  6:50                                         ` Tom H
2016-12-22  6:05                                     ` Tom H
2016-12-18  0:01                               ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-18  1:58                             ` Taiidan
2016-12-18  4:58                               ` Andrej Rode
2016-12-18  7:07                                 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-12-18 10:32                                   ` Andrej Rode
2016-12-18  7:48                           ` Tom H
2016-12-17 15:44                       ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-17 17:19                         ` Corbin Bird
2016-12-17 19:10                           ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-17 20:51                             ` Marc Joliet
2016-12-18  1:21                               ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-18  9:25                                 ` Marc Joliet
2016-12-18  1:23                             ` Daniel Campbell (zlg)
2016-12-18 20:58                               ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-17 18:22                         ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-17 22:53                           ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-17 23:28                             ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-17 23:58                             ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2016-12-18  1:25                               ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-18  7:35                               ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-18  7:50                               ` Tom H
2016-12-17 22:57                           ` [gentoo-user] " Andrej Rode
2016-12-17 23:31                             ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-18  4:44                               ` Andrej Rode
2016-12-18 12:25                                 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-19  9:59                       ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-19 22:42                         ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-17 23:35               ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-18  7:39               ` Tom H
2016-12-18 21:02                 ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-19 18:15               ` lee
2016-12-19 20:07                 ` Daniel Frey
2016-12-19 20:35                   ` lee
2016-12-19 21:09                     ` Andrej Rode
2016-12-20  3:37                       ` lee
2016-12-20  4:23                         ` Andrej Rode
2016-12-20 10:11                           ` Kai Peter
2016-12-20 16:21                           ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-20 17:38                             ` Kai Peter
2016-12-20 17:50                               ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-20 18:08                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-20 18:22                                   ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-20 18:28                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-20 19:05                                       ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-20 21:55                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-20 22:11                                       ` lee
2016-12-21  0:27                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-21 11:33                                           ` karl
2016-12-21 21:48                                           ` lee
2016-12-21 23:46                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-22  3:15                                               ` lee
2016-12-22  8:56                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-22  9:52                                                   ` Tom H
2016-12-22 10:14                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-22 10:27                                                       ` Tom H
2016-12-22 12:38                                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-23  7:26                                                           ` Tom H
2016-12-23  8:39                                                             ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-23  8:48                                                               ` Jorge Almeida
2016-12-29  9:36                                                                 ` Tom H
2016-12-24 15:50                                                               ` Tom H
2016-12-24 21:20                                                                 ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-24  1:57                                                     ` lee
2016-12-24 15:46                                                       ` Tom H
2016-12-26 20:01                                                         ` lee
2016-12-27 11:33                                                           ` Neil Bothwick [this message]
2016-12-27 18:53                                                             ` lee
2016-12-27 20:40                                                               ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-29 10:13                                                               ` Tom H
2016-12-30  1:15                                                                 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-30  2:23                                                                   ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-30 10:19                                                                   ` Tom H
2016-12-29  9:42                                                           ` Tom H
2016-12-24  1:52                                                   ` lee
2016-12-24  8:08                                                     ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-24 15:30                                                       ` lee
2016-12-24  9:53                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-24 15:50                                                       ` lee
2016-12-24 15:59                                                     ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-26 18:24                                                       ` lee
2016-12-26 21:21                                                         ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-26 22:47                                                           ` lee
2016-12-27  0:18                                                             ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-27  7:21                                                               ` lee
2016-12-27 10:09                                                                 ` Mick
2016-12-27 19:21                                                                   ` lee
2016-12-27 19:56                                                                     ` Mick
2016-12-27 20:31                                                                     ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-28 10:58                                                                       ` Kai Peter
2016-12-28 16:20                                                                       ` mailer "module" for 'eselect news' (Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No) lee
2016-12-28 20:51                                                                         ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-29  0:38                                                                           ` mailer "module" for 'eselect news' (Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, lee
2016-12-20 21:53                                 ` [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No Neil Bothwick
2016-12-20 22:12                                   ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-22  6:47                             ` Tom H
2016-12-20 22:04                           ` lee
2016-12-22  6:56                             ` Tom H
2016-12-20 20:35                       ` Daniel Frey
2016-12-20 20:52                         ` Andrej Rode
2016-12-22  6:53                         ` Tom H
2016-12-22 15:40                           ` Daniel Frey
2016-12-23  7:38                             ` Tom H
2016-12-19 22:50                     ` Dale
2016-12-20  1:29                       ` Taiidan
2016-12-20  3:46                         ` lee
2016-12-20  3:45                       ` lee
2016-12-20  4:59                         ` Dale
2016-12-20 22:28                           ` lee
2016-12-20 23:51                             ` Dale
2016-12-21 22:02                               ` lee
2016-12-21 22:31                                 ` Dale
2016-12-24  2:04                                   ` lee
2016-12-24  6:28                                     ` Dale
2016-12-24 16:05                                       ` lee
2016-12-24 17:58                                         ` Dale
2016-12-26 19:42                                           ` lee
2016-12-26 20:40                                             ` Dale
2016-12-26 21:37                                               ` lee
2016-12-26 22:31                                                 ` Dale
2016-12-26 21:29                                             ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-26 23:02                                               ` lee
2016-12-27  9:06                                                 ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-27 19:03                                                   ` lee
2016-12-20  8:33                         ` Kai Peter
2016-12-22  6:08                   ` Tom H
2016-12-24  2:07                     ` lee
2016-12-24  6:57                       ` [gentoo-user] " Martin Vaeth
2016-12-24  9:54                         ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-24 16:12                         ` lee
2016-12-24 15:48                       ` [gentoo-user] " Tom H
2016-12-26 18:35                         ` lee
2016-12-26 21:44                           ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-27  7:32                             ` lee
2016-12-29  9:40                           ` Tom H
2016-12-20 17:04                 ` Tanstaafl
2016-12-20 17:12                   ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-20 20:29                     ` Daniel Frey
2016-12-26 15:21                     ` Michael Mol
2016-12-27 12:39 ` [gentoo-user] Firefox 49.0 & Youtube....Video: Yes - " Alarig Le Lay
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2016-12-24  6:16 [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... " andymenderunix

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