From: Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk>
To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org
Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No
Date: Wed, 21 Dec 2016 23:46:53 +0000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <20161221234653.24de1d1c@digimed.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <871sx1t0lu.fsf@heimdali.yagibdah.de>
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On Wed, 21 Dec 2016 22:48:29 +0100, lee wrote:
> > You can't switch any two names because the udev rules are run singly,
> > so at one point you will be trying to rename an interface with a name
> > that is already in use.
>
> I mean more like renaming them on the fly --- or by having a
> configuration file with key:value pairs like 'enp69s0f1:eth3' --- or
> perhaps triples like 'enp69s0f1:eth3:"DMZ Interface"'.
In that case you may as well leave the unique names in place and set up
recognisable aliases.
> That way, you could have a recognisable name (or several names) for
> every unrecognisable one and assume that "eth3" or "foo" or however you
> want to call it is the same interface just as much as you would with
> unrecognisable names --- plus the advantage that when you ever need to
> change an interface, you only need to edit one small file rather than
> various configurations files having the unrecognisable name(s) in them.
There are no config files to edit with the predictable names, the names
are created from the physical location of the port. That's why they are
called predictable, unless you move the NIC to a different PCI slot, it
will always have the same name, no matter what other hardware you add or
remove. Yes, the names are cumbersome, but they have to be like that to
guarantee their uniqueness. How often you you have to type interface
names anyway, and how many of those are in a shell with tab completion
that takes care of it for you?
The names are ugly, but that's about their only sin.
--
Neil Bothwick
Head: (n.) the part of a disk drive which detects sectors and decides
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2016-10-15 18:27 [gentoo-user] Firefox 49.0 & Youtube....Video: Yes - Audio: No Meino.Cramer
2016-10-16 4:55 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-10-16 6:48 ` Meino.Cramer
2016-10-16 6:59 ` Jigme Datse Yli-RAsku
2016-10-16 7:33 ` Meino.Cramer
2016-10-16 7:44 ` Meino.Cramer
2016-11-19 6:11 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-11-19 8:33 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-11-19 9:22 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-11-19 9:59 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-11-20 8:10 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-11-20 19:46 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-11-28 16:30 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-11-28 21:54 ` [gentoo-user] " Ian Zimmerman
2016-11-28 22:31 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-11-29 7:51 ` [gentoo-user] " Daniel Campbell
2016-11-30 22:34 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-10-16 23:43 ` [gentoo-user] " Ian Zimmerman
2016-10-16 13:17 ` [gentoo-user] " David M. Fellows
2016-12-16 10:19 ` [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... " Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-16 10:54 ` John Covici
2016-12-16 11:02 ` Arve Barsnes
2016-12-16 12:16 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-16 13:13 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-16 13:35 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-16 16:51 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-16 19:16 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-16 20:12 ` [gentoo-user] " Ian Zimmerman
2016-12-16 20:39 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-16 22:55 ` Ian Zimmerman
2016-12-16 23:58 ` [gentoo-user] X w/o suid root [Was: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?] Ian Zimmerman
2016-12-17 1:12 ` Simon Thelen
2016-12-18 5:35 ` [gentoo-user] Re: X w/o suid root Ian Zimmerman
2016-12-19 6:43 ` Ian Zimmerman
2016-12-19 23:35 ` Ian Zimmerman
2016-12-20 16:19 ` Michael Mol
2016-12-17 2:04 ` [gentoo-user] Re: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No Taiidan
2016-12-17 3:11 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-17 3:49 ` R0b0t1
2016-12-17 9:03 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-12-18 7:39 ` Tom H
2016-12-17 8:29 ` Tom H
2016-12-16 21:10 ` [gentoo-user] " R0b0t1
2016-12-16 22:27 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-17 5:59 ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-17 8:08 ` Taiidan
2016-12-17 19:56 ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-17 22:44 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-17 23:25 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-18 1:56 ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-18 2:02 ` Taiidan
2016-12-18 5:50 ` [gentoo-user] Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon, WAS: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA? " Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-18 7:04 ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-18 18:16 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-18 18:43 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-18 20:29 ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-19 11:16 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-19 17:17 ` [gentoo-user] Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-19 17:43 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-19 23:33 ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-20 15:10 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-19 12:25 ` [gentoo-user] Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon, WAS: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA? Youtube... Audio: No Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-20 8:00 ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-20 15:07 ` [gentoo-user] Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-21 0:17 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-21 2:30 ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-24 17:38 ` [gentoo-user] " Ian Zimmerman
2016-12-24 19:31 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-23 4:38 ` [gentoo-user] Pale Moon Air-Gapped portage EAPI 6 Install WAS: [Logging] SSL with PM Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-23 16:58 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-24 7:29 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-12-24 17:23 ` Miroslav Rovis
2017-01-11 5:50 ` Miroslav Rovis
2017-02-19 11:02 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-18 9:43 ` [gentoo-user] Re: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No Martin Vaeth
2016-12-17 5:55 ` [gentoo-user] " Walter Dnes
2016-12-17 8:53 ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-17 9:36 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-12-17 13:09 ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-18 7:45 ` Tom H
2016-12-18 8:23 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-12-18 15:16 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-18 16:47 ` lee
2016-12-18 16:56 ` Dutch Ingraham
2016-12-18 21:09 ` lee
2016-12-18 18:26 ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-18 21:34 ` lee
2016-12-18 22:48 ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-19 16:55 ` lee
2016-12-18 16:52 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-12-17 12:35 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-17 13:17 ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-17 14:35 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-17 14:58 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-17 18:20 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-17 19:34 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-17 21:57 ` Marc Joliet
2016-12-17 23:17 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-17 23:23 ` Andrej Rode
2016-12-17 23:36 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-19 9:37 ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-19 22:34 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-19 23:56 ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-19 14:52 ` Marc Joliet
2016-12-19 15:19 ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-19 15:48 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-20 16:33 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-20 16:47 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-20 17:44 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-20 17:57 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-20 18:07 ` Kai Peter
2016-12-20 18:20 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-20 22:51 ` Alan Mackenzie
2016-12-21 2:33 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-21 3:49 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-12-21 12:53 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-22 1:19 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-12-22 9:43 ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-21 12:36 ` Tanstaafl
2016-12-21 13:03 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-21 18:56 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-21 19:31 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-21 21:18 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-22 1:40 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-12-21 12:09 ` karl
2016-12-21 13:27 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-21 13:36 ` Corbin Bird
2016-12-21 14:28 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-21 15:04 ` Corbin Bird
2016-12-21 19:00 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-22 6:50 ` Tom H
2016-12-22 6:05 ` Tom H
2016-12-18 0:01 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-18 1:58 ` Taiidan
2016-12-18 4:58 ` Andrej Rode
2016-12-18 7:07 ` Daniel Campbell
2016-12-18 10:32 ` Andrej Rode
2016-12-18 7:48 ` Tom H
2016-12-17 15:44 ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-17 17:19 ` Corbin Bird
2016-12-17 19:10 ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-17 20:51 ` Marc Joliet
2016-12-18 1:21 ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-18 9:25 ` Marc Joliet
2016-12-18 1:23 ` Daniel Campbell (zlg)
2016-12-18 20:58 ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-17 18:22 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-17 22:53 ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-17 23:28 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-17 23:58 ` [gentoo-user] " Grant Edwards
2016-12-18 1:25 ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-18 7:35 ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-18 7:50 ` Tom H
2016-12-17 22:57 ` [gentoo-user] " Andrej Rode
2016-12-17 23:31 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-18 4:44 ` Andrej Rode
2016-12-18 12:25 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-19 9:59 ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-19 22:42 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-17 23:35 ` Miroslav Rovis
2016-12-18 7:39 ` Tom H
2016-12-18 21:02 ` Walter Dnes
2016-12-19 18:15 ` lee
2016-12-19 20:07 ` Daniel Frey
2016-12-19 20:35 ` lee
2016-12-19 21:09 ` Andrej Rode
2016-12-20 3:37 ` lee
2016-12-20 4:23 ` Andrej Rode
2016-12-20 10:11 ` Kai Peter
2016-12-20 16:21 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-20 17:38 ` Kai Peter
2016-12-20 17:50 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-20 18:08 ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-20 18:22 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-20 18:28 ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-20 19:05 ` Heiko Baums
2016-12-20 21:55 ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-20 22:11 ` lee
2016-12-21 0:27 ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-21 11:33 ` karl
2016-12-21 21:48 ` lee
2016-12-21 23:46 ` Neil Bothwick [this message]
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2016-12-28 16:20 ` mailer "module" for 'eselect news' (Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No) lee
2016-12-28 20:51 ` Neil Bothwick
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2016-12-20 21:53 ` [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No Neil Bothwick
2016-12-20 22:12 ` Rich Freeman
2016-12-22 6:47 ` Tom H
2016-12-20 22:04 ` lee
2016-12-22 6:56 ` Tom H
2016-12-20 20:35 ` Daniel Frey
2016-12-20 20:52 ` Andrej Rode
2016-12-22 6:53 ` Tom H
2016-12-22 15:40 ` Daniel Frey
2016-12-23 7:38 ` Tom H
2016-12-19 22:50 ` Dale
2016-12-20 1:29 ` Taiidan
2016-12-20 3:46 ` lee
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2016-12-20 22:28 ` lee
2016-12-20 23:51 ` Dale
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2016-12-21 22:31 ` Dale
2016-12-24 2:04 ` lee
2016-12-24 6:28 ` Dale
2016-12-24 16:05 ` lee
2016-12-24 17:58 ` Dale
2016-12-26 19:42 ` lee
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2016-12-26 21:37 ` lee
2016-12-26 22:31 ` Dale
2016-12-26 21:29 ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-26 23:02 ` lee
2016-12-27 9:06 ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-27 19:03 ` lee
2016-12-20 8:33 ` Kai Peter
2016-12-22 6:08 ` Tom H
2016-12-24 2:07 ` lee
2016-12-24 6:57 ` [gentoo-user] " Martin Vaeth
2016-12-24 9:54 ` Neil Bothwick
2016-12-24 16:12 ` lee
2016-12-24 15:48 ` [gentoo-user] " Tom H
2016-12-26 18:35 ` lee
2016-12-26 21:44 ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-27 7:32 ` lee
2016-12-29 9:40 ` Tom H
2016-12-20 17:04 ` Tanstaafl
2016-12-20 17:12 ` Alan McKinnon
2016-12-20 20:29 ` Daniel Frey
2016-12-26 15:21 ` Michael Mol
2016-12-27 12:39 ` [gentoo-user] Firefox 49.0 & Youtube....Video: Yes - " Alarig Le Lay
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