From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 4BF17139085 for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 12:25:09 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 2E0F32241A9; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 12:24:58 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alt1.smtp5.plusvps.com (alt1.smtp5.plusvps.com [89.201.164.167]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B76F3E0E3B for ; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 12:24:57 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lin16.mojsite.com ([178.218.164.164]) by smtp5.plusvps.com with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1cIwzo-0004UR-Eq for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:24:48 +0100 Received: from 93-138-96-237.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([93.138.96.237]:49658 helo=g0n.localdomain) by lin16.mojsite.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cIwzn-0005HQ-MG for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:24:47 +0100 Received: by g0n.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id B883B6BC4; Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:25:19 +0100 (CET) Date: Mon, 19 Dec 2016 13:25:19 +0100 From: Miroslav Rovis To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] Reading the (SSL) traffic with Pale Moon, WAS: from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA? 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Audio: No Message-ID: <20161219122519.GB31077@g0n.xdwgrp> References: <20161216222708.GA23562@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161217055952.GB13608@waltdnes.org> <20161217224455.GA9477@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161217232554.GB9477@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161218015637.GC18283@waltdnes.org> <20161218055009.GA11155@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161218070441.GA19833@waltdnes.org> <20161218181616.GA13242@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161218184347.GB13242@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161218202933.GA23487@waltdnes.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20161218202933.GA23487@waltdnes.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-PlusHosting-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details, Found to be clean X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Spam-Status: No, No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - lin16.mojsite.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - croatiafidelis.hr X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: lin16.mojsite.com: authenticated_id: miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr X-Authenticated-Sender: lin16.mojsite.com: miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-ID: 1cIwzo-0004UR-Eq X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-From: miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr X-Archives-Salt: 97b4b1bd-fdfe-4e5d-92dc-66d1db439c0e X-Archives-Hash: a80f54f3027b4d5466fd3c0cda06baf6 --pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 161218-15:29-0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 07:43:47PM +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote >=20 > > [So I don't understand why you] thought dbus was needed to be disabled > > by other means, than the (as yet still) unofficial repo/overlay?) > >=20 > > Or am I missing something? >=20 > You are looking at the Pale Moon overlay. I did not know about it > when I first used Pale Moon. I originally downloaded the official > version tarball from http://linux.palemoon.org/ which needs dbus. I > built Pale Moon from source with several changes in the mozconfig file. > I also built it with gcc 5.4.0 with additional optimization. Gentoo > stable currently uses gcc 4.9.3. Pasting from my about:buildconfig : Compiler Version Compiler flags gcc 5.4.0 -Wall -Wdeclaration-after-statement -Wempty-body -Wpointer-to-int-cast -Wsign-compare -Wtype-limits -Wno-unused -Wcast-align -march=3Dnative -pipe -std=3Dgnu99 -fgnu89-inline -fno-strict-aliasing -fno-math-errno -pthread -pipe > dbus was included in the original code from Firefox before the forking > took place for a few reasons... I see.=20 > * "necko-wifi" for improved geo-location, which you probably do not want. > Since Pale Moon is separate from Firefox, they don't have a licence to > use Google's wifi database. >=20 > * WebRTC. I don't think it's enabled on the official version >=20 > * "WakeLock". *IF YOU HAVE A SCREENSAVER THAT COMMUNICATES VIA DBUS* > then Pale Moon can ask it to temporarily disable screensaving while > you are playing a long video. Those are not there in my Pale Moon (in clone-machine only yet, as I explained in my other reply email to this message), again pasting from my about:buildconfig : Configure arguments --enable-application=3Dbrowser --disable-install-strip --enable-optimize=3D-O2 --disable-valgrind --disable-dbus --disable-necko-wifi --enable-gstreamer --disable-webrtc --enable-alsa --disable-pulseaudio --enable-official-branding --enable-default-toolkit=3Dcairo-gtk2 > --=20 > Walter Dnes > I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications >=20 And I'm very curious to learn how to install in Air-Gapped, from git, through intermediary action, that is acceptable, but in a verifiable way, as I asked in my other reply email to this message. Just in case (pasting from about:support): Name Pale Moon Version 27.0.2 Build ID 20161218222634 =2E.. User Agent Mozilla/5.0 (X11; Linux x86_64; rv:45.9) Gecko/20100101 Goanna/3.0 Firefox/45.9 PaleMoon/27.0.2 Regards! --=20 Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr --pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYV9GvAAoJEOqYhIhPuvCuT7gP/RC6me79YJAg7jYI5n/vNOhq 8dAql0g4elWyByZSWBYG7sKEYG6uyxVsm9V53j/aLQ5Ll90NEq+K1vcrJ2MIZ0+X ewlXfFDvzbFmS3svQcJRsfXC+G3urtLqTKgNaRMG81j7If3WP/2LTWaV4eHnAi/Y M/esirBzHmGjOikUVNkLfrS6Ex6xvRGYciWogsqV8Iiz5KwRm6VCmHHoqAntmNzF KyUGlfCVQay0DuBtYYYy2IAGTNHn0UU7NIp/bsfD3al0k68SYUPKZBg24IHSyn58 ouWCqxdcyF44rrM65ID65FMmhkxB6zJSJNJjY+Kq8/+GmRGQEBoIdGTry72JE+Sy He01OxNGriT9ax9lrSMyppqRB0GR7YO9DWEsmupUYCh4IVhdB8ZQQed1GHHvQZCp m8i6OtvPdxZByX9qntdOqX4mUrqcIfh2f89mSRqbEVTTIFVvfU4I43q5dJeA2uAu 5TZ3EkFqJ031mjCwPDuIRbRxyGY6LiVGfyonscOt9LlDxAN7ppkLn3p4tiG1W/Cw 2zZohThI9+GATWMigA3c5cYQO6fwOKdYkZ3Q+g7Wbptmgpr6F1Dj2qfBjQpsJCjj qWprKf9gJF3JYRu5Peci2f2NOF0TZyoe77QC1T/jzJXaSdHgonDrIBt1tARFT6Cr EpY5hTOOVtjEE6M4HmPu =E9L1 -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --pvezYHf7grwyp3Bc--