From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E50D4139085 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 21:02:54 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 26CA621C107; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 21:02:48 +0000 (UTC) Received: from ironport2-out.teksavvy.com (ironport2-out.teksavvy.com [206.248.154.181]) (using TLSv1 with cipher DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id C5D9221C084 for ; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 21:02:47 +0000 (UTC) X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Filtered: true X-IronPort-Anti-Spam-Result: A0CkMwAu3EVY/x6cSC1dHAEBBAEBCgEBgzgBAQEBAR+BYIhPnAImAZJHgg+CCIYcBAICghFCEgECAQEBAQEBAWIohGkBBTocMwsYCRMSDwUlN4hvrRSLRAEwhUV5hFuFFIJlgjAFjn99imoBgXuPDooQF4YjjgKEDSYBL4EZhBCBYyA0iHkBAQE X-IPAS-Result: A0CkMwAu3EVY/x6cSC1dHAEBBAEBCgEBgzgBAQEBAR+BYIhPnAImAZJHgg+CCIYcBAICghFCEgECAQEBAQEBAWIohGkBBTocMwsYCRMSDwUlN4hvrRSLRAEwhUV5hFuFFIJlgjAFjn99imoBgXuPDooQF4YjjgKEDSYBL4EZhBCBYyA0iHkBAQE X-IronPort-AV: E=Sophos;i="5.33,749,1477972800"; d="scan'208";a="283083548" Received: from 45-72-156-30.cpe.teksavvy.com (HELO waltdnes.org) ([45.72.156.30]) by smtp.teksavvy.com with SMTP; 18 Dec 2016 16:02:47 -0500 Received: by waltdnes.org (sSMTP sendmail emulation); Sun, 18 Dec 2016 16:02:40 -0500 From: "Walter Dnes" Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 16:02:40 -0500 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No Message-ID: <20161218210240.GC23487@waltdnes.org> References: <20161015182743.GB4541@solfire> <20161216101951.GA29887@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161216131315.GA4052@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161216165118.GA26704@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161217055520.GA13608@waltdnes.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Archives-Salt: 777d53af-a4f2-4a3d-8f5a-92a72f45a4ec X-Archives-Hash: b4602d0df5be9a57a887f89c6ed14945 On Sun, Dec 18, 2016 at 02:39:58AM -0500, Tom H wrote > On Sat, Dec 17, 2016 at 12:55 AM, Walter Dnes wrote: > > > Similarly, the vast majority of home users have a machine with one > > ethernet port, and in the past it's always been eth0. Now the name > > varies in each machine depending on the motherboard layout; oogabooga11? > > foobar42? It may be static, but you don't know what it'll be, without > > first booting the machine. In a truly Orwellian twist, this "feature" > > is referred to as "Predictable" Network Interface Names. It only makes > > things easier for corporate machines acting as gateways/routers, with > > multiple ports. Again, the average home user is being jerked around for > > a corporate agenda. > > Do "regular" home users know the name of the NIC that they're using?! I meant the "regular" home users of linux, e.g. people in this forum. -- Walter Dnes I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications