From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 866D4139085 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:35:25 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 72A20E0CBC; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:35:13 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alt1.smtp7.plusvps.com (alt1.smtp7.plusvps.com [89.201.164.171]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id F2138E0CA6 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:35:12 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lin16.mojsite.com ([178.218.164.164]) by smtp7.plusvps.com with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1cIOVR-0003Yi-HT for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 00:35:09 +0100 Received: from 78-1-142-241.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([78.1.142.241]:47404 helo=g0n.localdomain) by lin16.mojsite.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cIOVQ-0000qP-Ci for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 00:35:08 +0100 Received: by g0n.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id D29EC6BC4; Sun, 18 Dec 2016 00:35:37 +0100 (CET) Date: Sun, 18 Dec 2016 00:35:37 +0100 From: Miroslav Rovis To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No Message-ID: <20161217233537.GC9477@g0n.xdwgrp> References: <20161015182743.GB4541@solfire> <20161216101951.GA29887@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161216131315.GA4052@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161216165118.GA26704@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161217055520.GA13608@waltdnes.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="9Ek0hoCL9XbhcSqy" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20161217055520.GA13608@waltdnes.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-PlusHosting-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details, Found to be clean X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Spam-Status: No, No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - lin16.mojsite.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - croatiafidelis.hr X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: lin16.mojsite.com: authenticated_id: miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr X-Authenticated-Sender: lin16.mojsite.com: miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-ID: 1cIOVR-0003Yi-HT X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-From: miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr X-Archives-Salt: efe838da-93d5-44c9-840d-fd1ec292e652 X-Archives-Hash: 02157adbd366b5fced24acc643e67a53 --9Ek0hoCL9XbhcSqy Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 161217-00:55-0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 02:16:27PM -0500, Rich Freeman wrote > > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 11:51 AM, Miroslav Rovis wrote: > > > > > It's been discussed over and over again. Lots of people are firm in > > > their understanding that Lennart is an actor by and for the big > > > business. Me too. > >=20 > > Well, he is a Red Hat employee. Nobody really debates that. >=20 > Maybe it's not intentional spyware malice, but rather that home users > are being jerked around while Redhat re-writes linux as a corporate OS. >=20 It's as much created-by-chance spyware, as accidentally-happened spyware, IMO, as the google android/iphone/windoze phone and others are eavesdropper devices by chance and by accident. I.e.: not in the least. While lots of people involved are not (plain) malicious, there is, from analysis of the big picture, no escaping the conclusion that the one-ring-cravers needed it, and so they planned it, just like the aforementioned eavesdropper devices. Even though, longer term, very very few people knew, or envisaged, say 20-30 years ago, that this Total Surveillance Age was coming. --=20 Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr --9Ek0hoCL9XbhcSqy Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYVcvJAAoJEOqYhIhPuvCuHT4QAJA8ydrvyhqf3iq4Ib+cqcJj 5rzcCjT4KFnq9qu7xLFtlud2EispRmUX7m/FP6wJG1pWPfuRA6bvEVtrEaxXU/8a dhY1Anedj/tpxrjCK90cP0BR5wF1+EDGSEIx4R3kkSpHRynu7ZKH2gN6ymO/3oXK oGWViVn0Nmf0KoZNadxOVGK77yR6StMZmWdvVw485MuYEU2gfnZMqVxSAuIzReLt pWOqZuqMxJ3YLO1d6qANt1ML6Jh6D2oEOYlJFZ4SBZ+ctnt/M9dsYYMEsSmUCtu6 kFf1XzRx3x3WsHpqsPylPPNyGHQO+FQ6mzPCcgISs1mRSMaqSaJUiI/P0cBvIcqb fZCV8J9LncBJe1KflAlkecj3hBfNsxKKg49mXTNt0kex7u9+JYr6xLEV8xwFGZro gTH3+cn+QPpUVIEE5VpZw0owUHJPZZRyJAgbcRJexsg7Y1uvKLtKU093JgWdT8N1 erguSPhwHUfwrewoju/kebGMDhwq+mQONF3DGiF0eB3QHOH7dq47dKKJeiTAMN7a YwszAJmDmFWQjTOx/7vAJIP5f7uBN36Q9LonCRR3KmUq358InKLOdlFO5l6xaVGP AAEQEgKO+emLhlcW/a/QtW9rvyTf1rY1jgZNNIcysa3ZqEebtwAahq1uF2DpsdD3 5vdx3lhX5fOQGEKGZblp =HVM+ -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --9Ek0hoCL9XbhcSqy--