From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 205B6139085 for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 22:44:45 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id B5E5F21C08A; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 22:44:32 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smtp6.plusvps.com (smtp6.plusvps.com [89.201.164.168]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 40C0D21C07F for ; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 22:44:31 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lin16.mojsite.com ([178.218.164.164]) by smtp6.plusvps.com with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1cINiO-000A6U-8H for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:44:28 +0100 Received: from 78-1-142-241.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([78.1.142.241]:47190 helo=g0n.localdomain) by lin16.mojsite.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cINiN-0002FB-3W; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:44:27 +0100 Received: by g0n.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id 2023A6BC4; Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:44:56 +0100 (CET) Date: Sat, 17 Dec 2016 23:44:56 +0100 From: Miroslav Rovis To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Cc: Walter Dnes Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... Audio: No Message-ID: <20161217224455.GA9477@g0n.xdwgrp> References: <20161015182743.GB4541@solfire> <20161216101951.GA29887@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161216131315.GA4052@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161216165118.GA26704@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161216222708.GA23562@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161217055952.GB13608@waltdnes.org> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha512; protocol="application/pgp-signature"; boundary="vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd" Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20161217055952.GB13608@waltdnes.org> User-Agent: Mutt/1.7.2 (2016-11-26) X-PlusHosting-MailScanner: Not scanned: please contact your Internet E-Mail Service Provider for details, Found to be clean X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-SpamCheck: X-Spam-Status: No, No X-AntiAbuse: This header was added to track abuse, please include it with any abuse report X-AntiAbuse: Primary Hostname - lin16.mojsite.com X-AntiAbuse: Original Domain - lists.gentoo.org X-AntiAbuse: Originator/Caller UID/GID - [47 12] / [47 12] X-AntiAbuse: Sender Address Domain - croatiafidelis.hr X-Get-Message-Sender-Via: lin16.mojsite.com: authenticated_id: miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr X-Authenticated-Sender: lin16.mojsite.com: miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-Information: Please contact the ISP for more information X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-ID: 1cINiO-000A6U-8H X-PlusHosting-MailScanner-From: miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr X-Archives-Salt: 9ddff406-1be8-4c63-83ce-a703af23a589 X-Archives-Hash: 4c48e7391a1dd96b1acfed642fc9d282 --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On 161217-00:59-0500, Walter Dnes wrote: > On Fri, Dec 16, 2016 at 11:27:08PM +0100, Miroslav Rovis wrote >=20 > > There, the few sentences, but the topic really is serious, will > > Firefox, from Firefox52, in my machine, and in people who don't want > > Pulseaudio, like I don't want it, be silent really from Firefox52, > > as some Mozilla devs of a ...particular kind, promised, repeatedly > > on that Mozilla bug page. >=20 > An alternative to Firefox is Pale Moon, http://linux.palemoon.org/ > Disclosure... I'm involved as a volunteer with the Pale Moon project. And I've been hunting for an answer from Pale Moon people, for quite a while. Even on this list, I tried to ask Martin Vaeth, I think he works with the ebuilds of Pale moon, find this non-replied-to email in your local gentoo-user archives: # Message-ID: <20161016201000.GF5079@g0n.xdwgrp> # References: <20161014175927.8360.2C6B93AA@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> # and the link (to that mail on web) is coming up later. But the main question I put on the Pale Moon forums: coming up later too. I have broken Mesa currently, downgrading it (slow system) ( and can't even give you the bug in question for the same reason, that later too... ) , well, Firefox segfaults on it, and it's my only browser that I like to go to the internet with, exactly because I can later read whatever happens. > --=20 > Walter Dnes > I don't run "desktop environments"; I run useful applications >=20 The question is about whether the reading of the network (of course I mean really decrypting the SSL traffic) will be implemented in Pale Moon. ( I was off, because I researched the really good links that Rich0 and some others gave, mostly in one of the first replies (diverted replies) to my question that this thread bears the subject line after...=20 And got really entangled, but I don't know enough, so little use for the topic. ) --=20 Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYVb/nAAoJEOqYhIhPuvCucPAP/jjXoZEPJjBnWc6TeJCTDYGF xNoQkqLPmWF7GCXLhu6vQzUTTlTOMG9sjZkQuWf5YlW94yPLE5ACtdKLcX+Wo0qB Lvk3jBjrL4qdi2MGGjRblj5PF8MRbaZypXHZtANywJaVqHc06fsMIPcM/nWCdxLn zekDquz6RjG1qr4hyCVSf/p9PipYJY8VShU49fFDhv41NdiUp2dPrQltNKpjoq/R cqF6e87YG28EJ6/NhjmnK8uFTNPFCJ979qOGDUvZepuZUWhHn3HL84Iv6MDTe+ec 42KhQuBvvTvp6YbA+XAYgZWGzN92YYbk5H2Wm3tMqz1BkkovgjMDRZBbho3m+BTc kaLeypGZkYJM69/UersodejGFpbB58aeIQdtSMccgkhcnERlBtaAymHNarsprOaI HoxGi2v2zJjfnBx8WE58Ol/h1aKUaoNHwbOC7G3PLV+rMeVtDidK8dFE8/LRI0DT wY1fcRTskV9qbRNTnnE5nrbYqFJWrtvz1s6o/M1CbpNTHPFJOaIm6JdedyNinWHA UbVm1/m5AykvwJQz0Bgv0fRfQterUT68Upfnz6od72QBqkp2a/fC+E9qpUcJjsO6 41waESV5/mARb34X5aouRSqvOFE/d2WKQScNM5k7FkRQhEgTkjoOkiv/HyRyr95V cqXVUj9q9ihSRPY7WKaQ =vLxl -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --vkogqOf2sHV7VnPd--