From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id E4713139084 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:19:38 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 6BC5CE0C07; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:19:30 +0000 (UTC) Received: from alt1.smtp5.plusvps.com (alt1.smtp5.plusvps.com [89.201.164.167]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 007E4E0C00 for ; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 10:19:29 +0000 (UTC) Received: from lin16.mojsite.com ([178.218.164.164]) by smtp5.plusvps.com with esmtps (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.84) (envelope-from ) id 1cHpbq-0009YV-5R for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 11:19:26 +0100 Received: from 78-1-154-244.adsl.net.t-com.hr ([78.1.154.244]:58548 helo=g0n.localdomain) by lin16.mojsite.com with esmtpsa (TLSv1:DHE-RSA-AES256-SHA:256) (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1cHpbp-0006VW-AH for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 11:19:25 +0100 Received: by g0n.localdomain (Postfix, from userid 1000) id E2E3F43; Fri, 16 Dec 2016 11:19:51 +0100 (CET) Date: Fri, 16 Dec 2016 11:19:51 +0100 From: Miroslav Rovis To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] from Firefox52: NO pure ALSA?, WAS: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube... 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Possibly bad news (for pure ALSA users)! Read the new comment at: Require PulseAudio to play sound on Linux https://bugzilla.mozilla.org/show_bug.cgi?id=3D1247056#c178 BTW, lots of comments are disallowed as "advocacy". Many users complained. I took time and did some investigation: ( in that other thread... details best found starting from maybe this email: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube....Video: Yes - Audio: No... https://marc.info/?l=3Dgentoo-user&m=3D147953595617288&w=3D2 and later ) , and fixed audio in my Gentoo, thanks also to help by developers here and one (contributing) at ALSA ML. I still have audio in my Firefox, and my ebuilds have for years now contained: "-pulseaudio": www-client/firefox-50.0.2 such as when playing Vimeo/Youtube/any other, in HTML, I have both video and audio. But as you can see, they see to insist to disable pure ALSA, and impose on everyone using Firefox, to install pusleaudio if they want to view videos in Firefox, and be able to listen to the sound of those video. The title of that bug now carries: Target Milestone: mozilla52 so it's not immediate (but pls note that it was claimed otherwise previously, previous target was earliear, IIUC). In my stron opinion, and opinions are allowed in Gentoo, just not imposing your opinion onto others (and that I am not doing, feel free to disagree!), pulseadio is spyware, read more here: Re: [Alsa-user] sans-pulseaudio Firefox? was: a strange thing https://www.mail-archive.com/alsa-user@lists.sourceforge.net/msg31928.html I'll try and ask on Alsa-user whether this decision makes a real threat to remain without audio for all users who want to stick with pure ALSA (I will never install pulseaudio). If some Gentoo developers, and there usually are a few, are reading here, is this a serious possibility that -pulseaudio useflag users will remain with silent Firefox, or is this just noise on the part of some =2E..particularly inclined Mozilla devs with some decision power? (I already asked such a question: Firefox 49.0 & Youtube....Video: Yes - Audio: No... https://marc.info/?l=3Dgentoo-user&m=3D148054527030206&w=3D2 but didn't get a reply, but, apparently, so far the "pulseaudio required" was bogus for the previous target which was Firefox46 IIUC, or?) Thanks for the kind consideration! --=20 Miroslav Rovis Zagreb, Croatia http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature; name="signature.asc" Content-Description: Digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQIcBAEBCgAGBQJYU7/HAAoJEOqYhIhPuvCu92gP/ROZO20aJsadBTTsPG+SiPow 77zdTl/lODvRlwiWqi/BXMtGql7See0qWd36UhslsNwvRnJPU+miVLy9MAkBxQtV 9F5VHh8n8yI+RpdtgW/DtKuHDeejj3zn6gOKTM6o3cu5lL/VInLS+JvLmRbgxnQn yaEKTATL2aJyz0eLf/YrK60E3vkFfB+YPCdkOuNhf2y278OGT0icHD0xYj5j5yB+ hFL+TlaoiRKleAbF7Mw+fV604ph1j0TIjMqgTrX7QE9NS8loF+HwLpUnmfTyw9iT GyXg0PADHUbSR9bIWTwI1PP6kE6EnqZ8b0+FVDd+vBUfTYh8hhCPPd3ZM8Tb2wNb ICEu46VBHMBUZyFwwr2wwhYvKcWCANn51ivmh6zYRcCvssIqPKl3jxXUs0Q4iFwC nW1JepXByXWShx15fMn/IfAtFhH9SlGzXK+RsVwz0gMV4nwVrz5bCR+dzdz/IgAY CRFjYp7lkms/vrxOOgkxF0Ul88cWnTg7OmUQqbMBTc9fJtbBsOaj62Pt/28BGfxq C5ny3HizJ8sL1ejMAL2Y1zVpuZhUAr66lW9RFhl41vnm/iJWQwBCl0N6ZyJ//xYB vUROTAiMLoQm95QWu7LJYEqhOMikGCpj1qxqa1llXrBkYG+epIInoo2zwHMR+YAe x8pBinaRE6hdx7xxrhzl =WotN -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --r5Pyd7+fXNt84Ff3--