[gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[Mark Humphrey]

Anyone here got a Brother printer? And if so what model?



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Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[John Jolet]

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On Sep 12, 2005, at 3:32 AM, Mark Humphrey wrote:

> Anyone here got a Brother printer? And if so what model?
>
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[gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[siefke_listen]

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Hello,

when I want use a Brother Printer (MFC 7320) it's need multilib? How can 
I fix this? 

siefke@sisibox ~ $ eselect profile list
Available profile symlink targets:
...
  [11]  default/linux/amd64/13.0/no-multilib *
---

At moment I use no-multilib but what must do for use multilib with a Brother
Multi Function Printer. 

Thank you for help.

Silvio


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Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[Daniel Frey]

On 2016-12-08 6:08 AM, siefke_listen@web.de wrote:
> Hello,
>
> when I want use a Brother Printer (MFC 7320) it's need multilib? How can
> I fix this?
>
> siefke@sisibox ~ $ eselect profile list
> Available profile symlink targets:
> ...
>    [11]  default/linux/amd64/13.0/no-multilib *
> ---
>
> At moment I use no-multilib but what must do for use multilib with a Brother
> Multi Function Printer.
>
> Thank you for help.
>
> Silvio
>

I am pretty sure the Brother drivers are in a compiled format (you don't 
compile them when you install them) so it will require multilib. No way 
around this unless Brother has no-multilib drivers on their website 
(unlikely.)

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[Bertram Scharpf]

Hi Silvio,

On Thursday, 08. Dec 2016, 15:08:34 +0100, siefke_listen@web.de wrote:
> when I want use a Brother Printer (MFC 7320) it's need multilib? How can 
> I fix this? 

I have a Brother MFC 7420. Yet, it's not connected to my
Gentoo but to a FreeBSD box. There, I completely ignored the
recommended drivers. I configured lpd (/etc/printcap) to
first pipe the PostScript/PDF documents through a
Ghostscript command. The only real problem was to find the
proper device driver (ljet2p).

  gs -q -dBATCH -dPARANOIDSAFER -dQUIET -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=ljet2p -r600 -sOutputFile=- -

Then I wrap around this a simple self-written PJL frame.

For about 8 years, though not printing too much, I never had
any problem.

You can have my PJL generator if you want (It's in Ruby).

Bertram


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Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[siefke_listen]

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On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 22:02:51 +0100
Bertram Scharpf <lists@bertram-scharpf.de> wrote:

> I have a Brother MFC 7420. Yet, it's not connected to my
> Gentoo but to a FreeBSD box. There, I completely ignored the

Really on FreeBSD? Wow a few years ago I work with FreeBSD and
on mailinglist they not could help to become running. That's 
why I going to Gentoo. 

> recommended drivers. I configured lpd (/etc/printcap) to
> first pipe the PostScript/PDF documents through a
> Ghostscript command. The only real problem was to find the
> proper device driver (ljet2p).
> 
>   gs -q -dBATCH -dPARANOIDSAFER -dQUIET -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=ljet2p -r600 -sOutputFile=- -
> 
> Then I wrap around this a simple self-written PJL frame.
> 
> For about 8 years, though not printing too much, I never had
> any problem.
> 
> You can have my PJL generator if you want (It's in Ruby).

Yes thanks if you like to share. 

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Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[siefke_listen]

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On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 12:40:46 -0800
Daniel Frey <djqfrey@gmail.com> wrote:

> I am pretty sure the Brother drivers are in a compiled format (you don't 
> compile them when you install them) so it will require multilib. No way 
> around this unless Brother has no-multilib drivers on their website 
> (unlikely.)

That's clear extract the deb file and moved cp -rv usr/ / and so on. 
This all do, I saw brother overlay and from there I saw multilib need
to be activated. 

So I think must search a printer / scanner / fax with make the job without
any needs of driver. Postscript I think will be find and when saw forum of
Linux Users then should buy a HP. 

Silvio
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Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[Ian Bloss]

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You could try running a 32bit chroot. This is how I deal with steam
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Steam#Chroot

On Fri, Dec 9, 2016, 02:21 siefke_listen@web.de <siefke_listen@web.de>
wrote:

> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 12:40:46 -0800
> Daniel Frey <djqfrey@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > I am pretty sure the Brother drivers are in a compiled format (you don't
> > compile them when you install them) so it will require multilib. No way
> > around this unless Brother has no-multilib drivers on their website
> > (unlikely.)
>
> That's clear extract the deb file and moved cp -rv usr/ / and so on.
> This all do, I saw brother overlay and from there I saw multilib need
> to be activated.
>
> So I think must search a printer / scanner / fax with make the job without
> any needs of driver. Postscript I think will be find and when saw forum of
> Linux Users then should buy a HP.
>
> Silvio
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Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[Bertram Scharpf]

On Friday, 09. Dec 2016, 11:16:18 +0100, siefke_listen@web.de wrote:
> On Thu, 8 Dec 2016 22:02:51 +0100
> Bertram Scharpf <lists@bertram-scharpf.de> wrote:
> 
> > I have a Brother MFC 7420. Yet, it's not connected to my
> > Gentoo but to a FreeBSD box. There, I completely ignored the
> > recommended drivers. I configured lpd (/etc/printcap) to
> > first pipe the PostScript/PDF documents through a
> > Ghostscript command.
> > 
> > Then I wrap around this a simple self-written PJL frame.
> > 
> > You can have my PJL generator if you want (It's in Ruby).
> 
> Yes thanks if you like to share. 

Say something like

  $ sudo gem install pjl

or first examine it on <https://github.com/BertramScharpf/ruby-pjl>.

There's a small dependency on a gem "appl" that's also
available on RubyGems and on my Github page.

However, to the present day I did not manage to make the
scanner work on FreeBSD. I plug it into a Linux machine
before I scan.

Bertram


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Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[Nils Freydank]

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Hello Silvio,

At thursday, dec 8 2016, 15:08:34 CET wrote siefke_listen@web.de:
> Hello,
> 
> when I want use a Brother Printer (MFC 7320) it's need multilib? How can
> I fix this?
> 
> siefke@sisibox ~ $ eselect profile list
> Available profile symlink targets:
> ...
>   [11]  default/linux/amd64/13.0/no-multilib *
> ---
I’m running two brother printers with “upstream“ drivers, ebuilds copied from 
brother overlay and modified regarding my needs. The drivers are binary 32bit 
ones for x86/i686 .deb or .rpm (in my case the rpm ones), so you *definitely* 
would need to migrate to an multilib profile - and I don’t know how awful this 
would become.
> At moment I use no-multilib but what must do for use multilib with a Brother
> Multi Function Printer.
You can change your profile one *without* the term "no-multilib".

But to be honest the suggestion by Betram looks most appealing to me (and I 
consider even migrating my stuff to this one!).

> Thank you for help.
> 
> Silvio


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[gentoo-user] Re: Brother Printer

[Ian Zimmerman]

On 2016-12-08 22:02, Bertram Scharpf wrote:

> I have a Brother MFC 7420. Yet, it's not connected to my
> Gentoo but to a FreeBSD box. There, I completely ignored the
> recommended drivers. I configured lpd (/etc/printcap) to
> first pipe the PostScript/PDF documents through a
> Ghostscript command. The only real problem was to find the
> proper device driver (ljet2p).
> 
>   gs -q -dBATCH -dPARANOIDSAFER -dQUIET -dNOPAUSE -sDEVICE=ljet2p -r600 -sOutputFile=- -
> 
> Then I wrap around this a simple self-written PJL frame.

If you do something like this, you may find noqp interesting:

https://github.com/nobrowser/noqp

IIRC there are other similar programs as well - writing noqp was
definitely motivated by NIH to a fairly large degree :-)

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Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[siefke_listen]

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On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 16:49:48 +0100
Nils Freydank <nils.freydank@posteo.de> wrote:

> would need to migrate to an multilib profile - and I don’t know how awful this 
> would become.

I try and this make me more pain. I stopped. GCC, GLIBC and sandbox not
want compile. Something with blabla.32.h is missing. I find nothing in
documentation how can switch or im blind. (i wear classes :) 

The question is, give printer (Scanner, FAX and Printer Combination) which work
under native x86_64 or all will not work? I try tomorrow with HP from my dad, 
when will work I think I buy new device. After 7 Years this will be ok.  

I read little in Web and what I understand is that HP Devices work easy and 
without any problems. Is it true? I prefer Brother, but what not want that 
not want. 


Silvio

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Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[Alec Ten Harmsel]

On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 11:17:55PM +0100, siefke_listen@web.de wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 16:49:48 +0100
> Nils Freydank <nils.freydank@posteo.de> wrote:
> 
> > would need to migrate to an multilib profile - and I don’t know how awful this 
> > would become.
> 
> I try and this make me more pain. I stopped. GCC, GLIBC and sandbox not
> want compile. Something with blabla.32.h is missing. I find nothing in
> documentation how can switch or im blind. (i wear classes :) 

I believe going from nomultilib to multilib is not officially supported.

I'm on this thread a little late, but does CUPS not work? Every printer
I've set up on a linux box (only a handful, to be fair) has worked out
of the box without extra drivers.

Alec

Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[Bertram Scharpf]

On Saturday, 10. Dec 2016, 23:17:55 +0100, siefke_listen@web.de wrote:
> On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 16:49:48 +0100
> Nils Freydank <nils.freydank@posteo.de> wrote:
> 
> > would need to migrate to an multilib profile - and I don’t know how awful this 
> > would become.
> 
> I try and this make me more pain. I stopped. GCC, GLIBC and sandbox not
> want compile. Something with blabla.32.h is missing. I find nothing in
> documentation how can switch or im blind. (i wear classes :) 
> 
> The question is, give printer (Scanner, FAX and Printer Combination) which work
> under native x86_64 or all will not work? I try tomorrow with HP from my dad, 
> when will work I think I buy new device. After 7 Years this will be ok.  

It hurts me to hear that you wasted so much precious time.

Let me propose you to do:

  - Download some Debian, Ububunt, Mint, Grml or whatever
    USB stick in case you missed that until now,

  - Boot it, install a standard driver, print out
    "exampke/niklolaus.ps" from my project
    <https://github.com/BertramScharpf/ruby-pjl> and
    validate it,

  - Print it out another time but redirect /dev/ulpt0 or
    whats name is is ever to a file,

  - send this file to me.

I'll try to write a filter, and I'm deeply interested in
finding out whether my PJL project will manage that.

Bertram


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Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[siefke_listen]

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On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 16:45:46 -0700
Alec Ten Harmsel <alec@alectenharmsel.com> wrote:

> I'm on this thread a little late, but does CUPS not work? Every printer
> I've set up on a linux box (only a handful, to be fair) has worked out
> of the box without extra drivers.

The printer take job but print not out. That's the problem. Im not sure
there is a way to run without driver from brother. 


Silvio

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Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[siefke_listen]

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On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 16:45:46 -0700
Alec Ten Harmsel <alec@alectenharmsel.com> wrote:

> I'm on this thread a little late, but does CUPS not work? Every printer
> I've set up on a linux box (only a handful, to be fair) has worked out
> of the box without extra drivers.


I have try now. With generic driver I play but they give only out blank 
pages. No text. I have now try with older hp and hplip it work. So I 
think I will buy a HP Device. I write to Brother Support and ask for 
native 64 support and which printer/scanner/fax combi but no answer. 


Silvio

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Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[Daniel Frey]

On 2016-12-11 10:06 AM, siefke_listen@web.de wrote:
> On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 16:45:46 -0700
> Alec Ten Harmsel <alec@alectenharmsel.com> wrote:
>
>> I'm on this thread a little late, but does CUPS not work? Every printer
>> I've set up on a linux box (only a handful, to be fair) has worked out
>> of the box without extra drivers.
>
> I have try now. With generic driver I play but they give only out blank
> pages. No text. I have now try with older hp and hplip it work. So I
> think I will buy a HP Device. I write to Brother Support and ask for
> native 64 support and which printer/scanner/fax combi but no answer.
>
>
> Silvio

I have an HP printer and hplip doesn't work with it, so beware...

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[J. Roeleveld]

On December 11, 2016 12:45:46 AM GMT+01:00, Alec Ten Harmsel <alec@alectenharmsel.com> wrote:
>On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 11:17:55PM +0100, siefke_listen@web.de wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 16:49:48 +0100
>> Nils Freydank <nils.freydank@posteo.de> wrote:
>> 
>> > would need to migrate to an multilib profile - and I don’t know how
>awful this 
>> > would become.
>> 
>> I try and this make me more pain. I stopped. GCC, GLIBC and sandbox
>not
>> want compile. Something with blabla.32.h is missing. I find nothing
>in
>> documentation how can switch or im blind. (i wear classes :) 
>
>I believe going from nomultilib to multilib is not officially
>supported.
>
>I'm on this thread a little late, but does CUPS not work? Every printer
>I've set up on a linux box (only a handful, to be fair) has worked out
>of the box without extra drivers.
>
>Alec

It is possible. But is not simple.
You need to create a multilib chroot. Build packages there which you then install on your main environment.

Best try this on a VM first a few times to make sure you fully understand all the steps.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[J. Roeleveld]

On December 11, 2016 11:57:07 PM GMT+01:00, Daniel Frey <djqfrey@gmail.com> wrote:
>On 2016-12-11 10:06 AM, siefke_listen@web.de wrote:
>> On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 16:45:46 -0700
>> Alec Ten Harmsel <alec@alectenharmsel.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I'm on this thread a little late, but does CUPS not work? Every
>printer
>>> I've set up on a linux box (only a handful, to be fair) has worked
>out
>>> of the box without extra drivers.
>>
>> I have try now. With generic driver I play but they give only out
>blank
>> pages. No text. I have now try with older hp and hplip it work. So I
>> think I will buy a HP Device. I write to Brother Support and ask for
>> native 64 support and which printer/scanner/fax combi but no answer.
>>
>>
>> Silvio
>
>I have an HP printer and hplip doesn't work with it, so beware...
>
>Dan

Dan,

Which HP printer do you have? I have used several in the past and never had issues with them.

One tip though, independent of brand, ink based printers may sound cheap, but I find the ink dries up long before they are supposed to be empty. Never had that problem with laser printers.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[Daniel Frey]

On 2016-12-11 8:27 PM, J. Roeleveld wrote:
> On December 11, 2016 11:57:07 PM GMT+01:00, Daniel Frey <djqfrey@gmail.com> wrote:
>> On 2016-12-11 10:06 AM, siefke_listen@web.de wrote:
>>> On Sat, 10 Dec 2016 16:45:46 -0700
>>> Alec Ten Harmsel <alec@alectenharmsel.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I'm on this thread a little late, but does CUPS not work? Every
>> printer
>>>> I've set up on a linux box (only a handful, to be fair) has worked
>> out
>>>> of the box without extra drivers.
>>> I have try now. With generic driver I play but they give only out
>> blank
>>> pages. No text. I have now try with older hp and hplip it work. So I
>>> think I will buy a HP Device. I write to Brother Support and ask for
>>> native 64 support and which printer/scanner/fax combi but no answer.
>>>
>>>
>>> Silvio
>> I have an HP printer and hplip doesn't work with it, so beware...
>>
>> Dan
> Dan,
>
> Which HP printer do you have? I have used several in the past and never had issues with them.
>
> One tip though, independent of brand, ink based printers may sound cheap, but I find the ink dries up long before they are supposed to be empty. Never had that problem with laser printers.
>
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It's a Laserjet CP1025nw. I fought with hplip for a day or two, hplip 
recognized the printer but wouldn't install it properly. Even using 
kdesu or similar it would say it installed properly but nothing would 
print from it. I eventually found foo2zjs, which works fine with it.

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 22:57:29 -0800, Daniel Frey wrote:

> It's a Laserjet CP1025nw. I fought with hplip for a day or two, hplip 
> recognized the printer but wouldn't install it properly. Even using 
> kdesu or similar it would say it installed properly but nothing would 
> print from it. I eventually found foo2zjs, which works fine with it.

ISTR these are supported by hplip now, I had a similar model and had to
use foo2zjs at the start but was later able to dispense with it.


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Re: [gentoo-user] Brother Printer

[siefke_listen]

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On Sun, 11 Dec 2016 14:57:07 -0800
Daniel Frey <djqfrey@gmail.com> wrote:

> I have an HP printer and hplip doesn't work with it, so beware...

Uff sometimes really have thoughts go back to Windows. :) I have HP PSC
1215 now from my dad and with hplip it work. Scanner, printer I need to
buy Ink. 

Silvio 

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[gentoo-user] Re: Brother Printer

[Grant Edwards]

On 2016-12-10, Alec Ten Harmsel <alec@alectenharmsel.com> wrote:
> On Sat, Dec 10, 2016 at 11:17:55PM +0100, siefke_listen@web.de wrote:
>> On Fri, 09 Dec 2016 16:49:48 +0100
>> Nils Freydank <nils.freydank@posteo.de> wrote:
>> 
>> > would need to migrate to an multilib profile - and I don’t know how awful this 
>> > would become.
>> 
>> I try and this make me more pain. I stopped. GCC, GLIBC and sandbox not
>> want compile. Something with blabla.32.h is missing. I find nothing in
>> documentation how can switch or im blind. (i wear classes :) 
>
> I believe going from nomultilib to multilib is not officially supported.

About a year ago, I did some reading on that topic and found an
unofficial step-by-step guide on how to do it.  After reading through
the procedure it a couple times, I decided that backing up my /home
partition and then reinstalling from scratch would be faster and
easier.

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