From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 047AB1395E2 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 21:23:33 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id D6DD1E0B2A; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 21:23:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from acedia.primate.net (disorder.primate.net [198.144.194.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id 72296E0AD2 for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 21:23:26 +0000 (UTC) Received: from acedia.primate.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by acedia.primate.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-6) with ESMTPS id uAJLNKWp029640 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for ; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 13:23:25 -0800 Received: (from itz@localhost) by acedia.primate.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id uAJLNF6r029626 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 13:23:15 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: acedia.primate.net: itz set sender to itz@primate.net using -f Received: from [10.8.78.14] (helo=matica.foolinux.mooo.com) by ahiker.mooo.com with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from ) id 1c8D6Q-0008SB-FY for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 13:23:14 -0800 Received: from itz by matica.foolinux.mooo.com with local (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from ) id 1c8D6P-0003MR-9k for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 13:23:13 -0800 Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2016 13:23:13 -0800 From: Ian Zimmerman To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: sans-dbus was: gnome intrusion? Message-ID: <20161119211734.12746.24E6124D@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <20161116124726.GA8424@g0n.xdwgrp> <20161117074400.7908.242EA9B5@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> <20161119102149.0c62c7ad@jupiter.sol.kaishome.de> <20161119190405.8295.2CF92EED@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> <20161119204409.11828.251A07F0@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Archives-Salt: 32b34bce-d5f3-4408-ba42-d5094eac9a8c X-Archives-Hash: e75c8402ff52d89017d1720043826a9b On 2016-11-19 23:07, Alan McKinnon wrote: > Yes I know init and KDE are very very different beasts from different > eras with different approaches to getting stuff done and so can appear > completely different. But within the contact of /this/ thread, they are > very similar. And you don't understand one of them to anything like the > same standard you understand the other. I agree with this, this is the core of the issue. But you see: I don't need the features these new beasts provide. Why should I have to learn all that huge amount of information, crowding out things I actually _like_ to know from my declining memory, to keep control of my computing? -- Please *no* private Cc: on mailing lists and newsgroups Personal signed mail: please _encrypt_ and sign Don't clear-text sign: http://cr.yp.to/smtp/8bitmime.html