From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: <gentoo-user+bounces-174115-garchives=archives.gentoo.org@lists.gentoo.org> Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id AA4BC1395E2 for <garchives@archives.gentoo.org>; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:06:35 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4A91DE0A69; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:06:28 +0000 (UTC) Received: from acedia.primate.net (disorder.primate.net [198.144.194.12]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id D411DE094C for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 19:06:27 +0000 (UTC) Received: from acedia.primate.net (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by acedia.primate.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Debian-6) with ESMTPS id uAJJ6LRX021835 (version=TLSv1.2 cipher=ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 bits=256 verify=NOT) for <gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org>; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 11:06:25 -0800 Received: (from itz@localhost) by acedia.primate.net (8.15.2/8.15.2/Submit) id uAJJ6FIu021829 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 11:06:15 -0800 X-Authentication-Warning: acedia.primate.net: itz set sender to itz@primate.net using -f Received: from [10.8.78.14] (helo=matica.foolinux.mooo.com) by ahiker.mooo.com with esmtps (TLS1.2:ECDHE_RSA_AES_256_GCM_SHA384:256) (Exim 4.84_2) (envelope-from <itz@primate.net>) id 1c8Axr-0007zt-80 for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 11:06:15 -0800 Received: from itz by matica.foolinux.mooo.com with local (Exim 4.87) (envelope-from <itz@matica.foolinux.mooo.com>) id 1c8Axr-0002Az-1Y for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 19 Nov 2016 11:06:15 -0800 Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2016 11:06:15 -0800 From: Ian Zimmerman <itz@primate.net> To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: [gentoo-user] Re: sans-dbus was: gnome intrusion? Message-ID: <20161119190405.8295.2CF92EED@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> Mail-Followup-To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org References: <CAKpSnpKRQ1Dtiaw5fj+t7eG+xbaDsVuAr2_cqitb5KD2Kz2YYA@mail.gmail.com> <20161114213743.55a5e76a@jupiter.sol.kaishome.de> <CAKpSnpKJXE8VZ8ThPKBw=UL1gCYPcnmP2gKU=tjSdVmDAk-VUw@mail.gmail.com> <20161116124726.GA8424@g0n.xdwgrp> <CAKpSnp+QFEgAFk-R1ta75WtFQFKgEzjm1b7t++Q2S5fgdiKNSw@mail.gmail.com> <CAGfcS_n7a8maBbSrzCyXvKtC6j12O61=iTYEUAL28=xDkMdveQ@mail.gmail.com> <20161117074400.7908.242EA9B5@matica.foolinux.mooo.com> <CAGfcS_nN7A7a8cQtTtT5-zrXat_Kvahn0p-U_y77JC0ZLgVZUA@mail.gmail.com> <20161119102149.0c62c7ad@jupiter.sol.kaishome.de> Precedence: bulk List-Post: <mailto:gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org> List-Help: <mailto:gentoo-user+help@lists.gentoo.org> List-Unsubscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+unsubscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Subscribe: <mailto:gentoo-user+subscribe@lists.gentoo.org> List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail <gentoo-user.gentoo.org> X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii Content-Disposition: inline In-Reply-To: <20161119102149.0c62c7ad@jupiter.sol.kaishome.de> User-Agent: Mutt/1.5.24 (2015-08-30) X-Archives-Salt: 3af371b3-08a9-4ed2-b9ab-ea929db7f0de X-Archives-Hash: da6a15c664b9c9d04023ddc8a1697ed8 On 2016-11-19 10:21, Kai Krakow wrote: > Well, let's wait for the argument "but this is not the unix way". ;-) No, that is not my argument. My argument is: I want _control_. As in the GNU Manifesto. And that means no huge subsystems dipping their claws into everything, and starting obscure daemons behind my back. -- Please *no* private Cc: on mailing lists and newsgroups Personal signed mail: please _encrypt_ and sign Don't clear-text sign: http://cr.yp.to/smtp/8bitmime.html