[gentoo-user] sans-dbus was: gnome intrusion?

[Miroslav Rovis <miro.rovis@croatiafidelis.hr>]

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On 161114-21:49+0000, Jorge Almeida wrote:
> On Mon, Nov 14, 2016 at 8:37 PM, Kai Krakow <hurikhan77@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Am Mon, 14 Nov 2016 09:32:59 +0000
> 
> >> --config-file=/usr/share/defaults/at-spi2/accessibility.conf --nofork
> >> --print-address 3
> >>   417 ?        Sl     0:00 /usr/libexec/at-spi2-registryd
> 
...
> I also would love to get rid of dbus, but I suppose something
> essential would break.
...
> Jorge
> 

I live without dbus. I've only recently noticed (can't be since long)
there is a dbus flag.

Find here also my very disliked pulseaudio and policykit flags:
https://www.gentoo.org/support/use-flags/

It's been my hard won struggle to rid me of dbus:
Uninstalling dbus and *kits (to Unfacilitate Remote Seats)
https://forums.gentoo.org/viewtopic-t-992146.html

I'm linking there because I was on the verge of giving up at one point,
and I don't know if you may need to look all the long and gory details,
as it wasn't completely easy to rid of dbus then... While it may be now.

I decided to go sans-dbus at all costs when I discovered a similar issue
like you report in the first main of this thread to which I now
participate:

[gentoo-user] gnome intrusion?
https://archives.gentoo.org/gentoo-user/message/4cd394faa9a3749bfc6bafbf6293ceba

Have a look:
Re: How to avoid stealth installation of systemd?
http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=20&t=116770&start=45#p552566

pasting parts of what I found, for the lazy:
$ ps aux | grep ssh
root      2184  0.0  0.0  54976  1004 ?        Ss   Sep06   0:00
/usr/sbin/sshd
mr        2447  0.0  0.0  10592    32 ?        Ss   Sep06   0:00
/usr/bin/ssh-agent /usr/bin/dbus-launch --exit-with-session
x-session-manager
mr       15141  0.0  0.0  19980  1796 pts/9    S+   21:48   0:00 grep
ssh
$

It was the dbus-launch, it was an encrypted session in my own machine.
C'mon??!!

Also, I've noticed that our developers are lending an ear to sans-dbus
users, as they are getting way more packages then previosly that do not
depend in the least on dbus anymore (Firefox, Wireshark, Inkscape ...
well I don't use very many packages... Ah, not to forget, Qt5 now does
not depend on dbus, or D-Bus, used below...)

Ah, I almost forgot. Gentoo is as default (OpenRC) without dbus! Have a
look:

https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Comparison_of_init_systems

There is no D-Bus under "Main dependencies" for OpenRC (I really like
OpenRC...)

(
However, the search for newbies, not for someone who knows what (s)he
is searching, like me now, is not inclined, if others see what I see
when they search wiki, and pasting:
openrc init systems
in searchbox at:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Main_Page
didn't give me:
https://wiki.gentoo.org/wiki/Comparison_of_init_systems
How is that? I had noticed the same not-finding-it for Grsecurity long
time ago...
)

Regards!
-- 
Miroslav Rovis
Zagreb, Croatia
http://www.CroatiaFidelis.hr

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