From mboxrd@z Thu Jan 1 00:00:00 1970 Return-Path: Received: from lists.gentoo.org (pigeon.gentoo.org [208.92.234.80]) (using TLSv1.2 with cipher ECDHE-RSA-AES256-GCM-SHA384 (256/256 bits)) (No client certificate requested) by finch.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTPS id B8AA4138330 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:24:46 +0000 (UTC) Received: from pigeon.gentoo.org (localhost [127.0.0.1]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with SMTP id 4978AE0C5F; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:24:42 +0000 (UTC) Received: from smarthost03c.mail.zen.net.uk (smarthost03c.mail.zen.net.uk [212.23.1.22]) by pigeon.gentoo.org (Postfix) with ESMTP id 7EB07E0C3D for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:24:40 +0000 (UTC) Received: from [81.108.251.46] (helo=mail.digimed.co.uk) by smarthost03c.mail.zen.net.uk with esmtpsa (TLS1.2:DHE_RSA_AES_256_CBC_SHA256:256) (Exim 4.80) (envelope-from ) id 1bnvN9-0000Od-CG for gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 22:24:39 +0000 Received: from digimed.co.uk (fenchurch.digimed.co.uk [192.168.1.6]) by mail.digimed.co.uk (Postfix) with ESMTPA id D147F5661F4 for ; Sat, 24 Sep 2016 23:24:38 +0100 (BST) Date: Sat, 24 Sep 2016 23:24:32 +0100 From: Neil Bothwick To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install Message-ID: <20160924232432.5ada428c@digimed.co.uk> In-Reply-To: <884942704.4121549.1474749838105@mail.yahoo.com> References: <884942704.4121549.1474749838105.ref@mail.yahoo.com> <884942704.4121549.1474749838105@mail.yahoo.com> Organization: Digital Media Production X-Mailer: Claws Mail 3.14.0 (GTK+ 2.24.31; x86_64-pc-linux-gnu) X-GPG-Fingerprint: 7260 0F33 97EC 2F1E 7667 FE37 BA6E 1A97 4375 1903 Precedence: bulk List-Post: List-Help: List-Unsubscribe: List-Subscribe: List-Id: Gentoo Linux mail X-BeenThere: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org Reply-to: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org MIME-Version: 1.0 Content-Type: multipart/signed; micalg=pgp-sha1; boundary="Sig_/f9xdP.aZA=3PTeYKFqh.mK0"; protocol="application/pgp-signature" X-Originating-smarthost03c-IP: [81.108.251.46] Feedback-ID: 81.108.251.46 X-Archives-Salt: 6644cd4c-ae72-48f9-abcf-8c7d721b9f1a X-Archives-Hash: f851c0c58de05c1ea74e82e56773fbae --Sig_/f9xdP.aZA=3PTeYKFqh.mK0 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 20:43:58 +0000 (UTC), Christopher Robinson wrote: > Funny how you used XXX when I SPECIFCALLY mentioned mentioned the LIVE > DVD as opposed to the minimal install cd. That was the whole point > which you missed in jumping to conclusions about my ignorance.=20 I know you mentioned a specific CD, I just typed XXX to save going back through the broken threads to find the actual disc you referred to. However it should be clear that my initial response was relevant to the disc you mentioned as I quoted that particular question, and nothing else, n my initial response. I offered advice to you, which you were free to accept, reject or to respond to with abuse. Based on your choice, you will be pleased to know that I won't be wasting any more of my time or yours by responding further. > -------------------------------------------- > On Sat, 9/24/16, Neil Bothwick wrote: >=20 > Subject: Re: [gentoo-user] New Install > To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 4:38 PM > =20 > On Sat, 24 Sep 2016 > 20:31:13 +0000 (UTC), Christopher Robinson wrote: > =20 > > You are giving a generic =20 > answer to what you see as a generic question. > > I really can't=C2=A0 play 20 questions by =20 > repeating over until the light > > comes =20 > on. > =20 > I'm sorry, but > "Can I install from disc XXX?" is a generic > question. > =20 > The more specific > and detailed the question, the more specific and > detailed the answers. But the response was > given freely and it's entirely > up to you > what you do with it. > =20 > =20 > -------------------------------------------- > > On Sat, 9/24/16, Neil Bothwick =20 > wrote: > >=20 > >=C2=A0 Subject: =20 > Re: [gentoo-user] New Install > >=C2=A0 To: gentoo-user@lists.gentoo.org > >=C2=A0 Date: Saturday, September 24, 2016, 4:21 =20 > PM > >=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 On Sat, 24 =20 > Sep 2016 > >=C2=A0 15:05:24 +0000 (UTC), =20 > Christopher Robinson wrote: > >=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 > Honestly, your reply is=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 not helpful. I have read through the =20 > the > >=C2=A0 > handbook and the directions =20 > there do not=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 match the screen =20 > results. > >=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 =20 > You'd need to be more specific about > >=C2=A0 that. > >=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 > I > >=C2=A0 > take =20 > offense at your arrogant tone in=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 =20 > reply to a beginners request for > >=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 I wasn't trying to be offensive. > >=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 > help.While =20 > those with=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 experience may find my =20 > request naive, I went to > >=C2=A0 > the =20 > list for suggestions beyond the=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 =20 > handbook.Also, you confuse the two > >=C2=A0 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 parts of my question in your =20 > smackdown. > >=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 =20 > Firstly, it wasn't a smackdown. Secondly, > >=C2=A0 you asked two separate > >=C2=A0 questions. I only > >=C2=A0 =20 > tried to answer one of them, which is why I quoted only > >=C2=A0 one. > >=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 As has > >=C2=A0 been =20 > mentioned elsewhere, your problem was caused by missing > >=C2=A0 a > >=C2=A0 step. The point =20 > I was trying to make is > >=C2=A0 that it is =20 > important to follow > >=C2=A0 the handbook > >=C2=A0 carefully, so the advice was to read it =20 > fully before > >=C2=A0 attempting to follow it. =20 > Reading it and > >=C2=A0 following it at the =20 > same time is > >=C2=A0 asking for > >=C2=A0 trouble. > >=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 Experience has > >=C2=A0 =20 > shown that a large proportion of new user install > >=C2=A0 problems are caused by a failure to =20 > follow the > >=C2=A0 handbook correctly. > >=C2=A0 Sometimes this is caused > >=C2=A0 by someone thinking they know better and =20 > taking > >=C2=A0 a shortcut but more often it =20 > is simply a > >=C2=A0 moaater of a mistake =20 > or > >=C2=A0 misunderstanding > >=C2=A0 somewhere. > >=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 > Sorry=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 for the annoyance and > >=C2=A0 > possibleviolation=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 of list protocol, but I expected a bit =20 > more support.=20 > >=C2=A0 >=20 > >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0 =C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0On=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 Saturday, September 24, 2016 9:47 AM, =20 > Neil Bothwick > >=C2=A0 > =C2=A0 =20 > =20 > >=C2=A0 wrote:=20 > >=C2=A0 > =20 > =20 > >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0 On Sat,=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 24 Sep 2016 12:13:00 +0000 (UTC), =20 > Christopher Robinson > >=C2=A0 wrote: > >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > >=C2=A0 > > Also,=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 I read that it is possible to install =20 > Gentoo from the > >=C2=A0 Live > >=C2=A0 > > DVD.How do I do =20 > that?=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > >=C2=A0 >=20 > >=C2=A0 > You need to read=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 chapter 1 of the Gentoo handbook from =20 > start to finish, > >=C2=A0 > then read it =20 > again. When you understand=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 what is =20 > going on, you then boot > >=C2=A0 > from=C2=A0 =20 > =20 > >=C2=A0 the live DVD and follow the =20 > installation instructions fro > >=C2=A0 the > >=C2=A0 > handbook. > >=C2=A0 > >=20 > >=C2=A0 >=C2=A0=C2=A0=C2=A0 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 --=20 > >=C2=A0 Neil =20 > Bothwick > >=C2=A0=20 > >=C2=A0 I =20 > distinctly remember forgetting > >=C2=A0 that. > > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > =20 > --=20 > Neil Bothwick > =20 > Never sleep with anyone crazier than > yourself. >=20 --=20 Neil Bothwick The thrill of victory, the agony of delete. --Sig_/f9xdP.aZA=3PTeYKFqh.mK0 Content-Type: application/pgp-signature Content-Description: OpenPGP digital signature -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iEYEARECAAYFAlfm/SAACgkQum4al0N1GQPwyQCffpdQYgHo4+hZtKmDs1vgPxEk gYYAnRPSNKldy6sNcsJyX6LOaMtDkjHN =fD2l -----END PGP SIGNATURE----- --Sig_/f9xdP.aZA=3PTeYKFqh.mK0--