[gentoo-user] emerge conflict

[gentoo-user] emerge conflict

[Philip Webb]

Starting my regular Sat system update, 'eix-sync' told me (equivalent) :

root:524 ~> eix ^perl$
[U] dev-lang/perl
 Available versions:  5.20.2(0/5.20) ~5.20.2-r1(0/5.20) ~5.22.0(0/5.22) ~5.22.1(0/5.22) 5.22.2(0/5.22) ~5.24.0(0/5.24) ~5.24.0-r1(0/5.24) {berkdb debug doc gdbm ithreads}
 Installed versions:  5.20.2([2015-10-04 11:34:10])(gdbm -berkdb -debug -doc -ithreads)

So I tried 'emerge -pv perl' & was told the current version of (G)Vim
required the earlier installed version of Perl.
After updating to the latest testing version of (G)Vim, I tried again :

root:522 ~> emerge -pv perl

These are the packages that would be merged, in order:

Calculating dependencies... done!
[ebuild   R    ] dev-lang/perl-5.20.2:0/5.20::gentoo  USE="-berkdb -debug -doc gdbm -ithreads" 0 KiB

Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 KiB

WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict:

dev-lang/perl:0

  (dev-lang/perl-5.22.2:0/5.22::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) conflicts with
    dev-lang/perl:0/5.20= required by (media-libs/exiftool-10.20:0/0::gentoo, installed)
                 ^^^^^^^^
    dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by (dev-perl/File-MimeInfo-0.270.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
                 ^^^^^^^^           
    =dev-lang/perl-5.20.2* required by (virtual/perl-File-Spec-3.480.100-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
    ^              ^^^^^^^
    =dev-lang/perl-5.20* required by (virtual/perl-Test-Harness-3.330.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
    ^              ^^^^^
    dev-lang/perl:0/5.20= required by (media-gfx/graphite2-1.3.8:0/0::gentoo, installed)
                 ^^^^^^^^
    dev-lang/perl:0/5.20= required by (net-print/cups-filters-1.5.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
                 ^^^^^^^^
    dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by (dev-perl/File-DesktopEntry-0.40.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
                 ^^^^^^^^           
    dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by (dev-perl/File-BaseDir-0.30.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
                 ^^^^^^^^           
    dev-lang/perl:0/5.20= required by (app-editors/gvim-8.0.0005:0/0::gentoo, installed)
                 ^^^^^^^^
    dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by (perl-core/Data-Dumper-2.154.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
                 ^^^^^^^^           
    >=dev-lang/perl-5.8.8:0/5.20= required by (media-gfx/imagemagick-6.9.4.6:0/6.9.4.6::gentoo, installed)
                         ^^^^^^^^
    dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by (perl-core/File-Temp-0.230.400-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
                 ^^^^^^^^           
    dev-lang/perl:0/5.20= required by (app-editors/vim-8.0.0005:0/0::gentoo, installed)
                 ^^^^^^^^

Portage is refusing to update to the latest stable Perl,
whether I have an earlier version of Vim (-13xx) or the latest version.

How do I update Perl without dropping Vim ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge conflict

[Daniel Frey]

On 09/17/2016 04:12 PM, Philip Webb wrote:
> Starting my regular Sat system update, 'eix-sync' told me (equivalent) :
> 
> root:524 ~> eix ^perl$
> [U] dev-lang/perl
>  Available versions:  5.20.2(0/5.20) ~5.20.2-r1(0/5.20) ~5.22.0(0/5.22) ~5.22.1(0/5.22) 5.22.2(0/5.22) ~5.24.0(0/5.24) ~5.24.0-r1(0/5.24) {berkdb debug doc gdbm ithreads}
>  Installed versions:  5.20.2([2015-10-04 11:34:10])(gdbm -berkdb -debug -doc -ithreads)
> 
> So I tried 'emerge -pv perl' & was told the current version of (G)Vim
> required the earlier installed version of Perl.
> After updating to the latest testing version of (G)Vim, I tried again :
> 
> root:522 ~> emerge -pv perl
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R    ] dev-lang/perl-5.20.2:0/5.20::gentoo  USE="-berkdb -debug -doc gdbm -ithreads" 0 KiB
> 
> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 KiB
> 
> WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a dependency conflict:
> 
> dev-lang/perl:0
> 
>   (dev-lang/perl-5.22.2:0/5.22::gentoo, ebuild scheduled for merge) conflicts with
>     dev-lang/perl:0/5.20= required by (media-libs/exiftool-10.20:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>                  ^^^^^^^^
>     dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by (dev-perl/File-MimeInfo-0.270.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>                  ^^^^^^^^           
>     =dev-lang/perl-5.20.2* required by (virtual/perl-File-Spec-3.480.100-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>     ^              ^^^^^^^
>     =dev-lang/perl-5.20* required by (virtual/perl-Test-Harness-3.330.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>     ^              ^^^^^
>     dev-lang/perl:0/5.20= required by (media-gfx/graphite2-1.3.8:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>                  ^^^^^^^^
>     dev-lang/perl:0/5.20= required by (net-print/cups-filters-1.5.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>                  ^^^^^^^^
>     dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by (dev-perl/File-DesktopEntry-0.40.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>                  ^^^^^^^^           
>     dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by (dev-perl/File-BaseDir-0.30.0-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>                  ^^^^^^^^           
>     dev-lang/perl:0/5.20= required by (app-editors/gvim-8.0.0005:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>                  ^^^^^^^^
>     dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by (perl-core/Data-Dumper-2.154.0:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>                  ^^^^^^^^           
>     >=dev-lang/perl-5.8.8:0/5.20= required by (media-gfx/imagemagick-6.9.4.6:0/6.9.4.6::gentoo, installed)
>                          ^^^^^^^^
>     dev-lang/perl:0/5.20=[-build(-)] required by (perl-core/File-Temp-0.230.400-r1:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>                  ^^^^^^^^           
>     dev-lang/perl:0/5.20= required by (app-editors/vim-8.0.0005:0/0::gentoo, installed)
>                  ^^^^^^^^
> 
> Portage is refusing to update to the latest stable Perl,
> whether I have an earlier version of Vim (-13xx) or the latest version.
> 
> How do I update Perl without dropping Vim ?
> 

It doesn't look like just vim - it looks like exiftool, graphite2,
cups-filters, gvim, and imagemagick all are blocking.

I'd guess that these packages need a version bump or you need to unmask
one of the newer builds (most likely they haven't been stabilized yet.)

Dan

Re: [gentoo-user] emerge conflict

[Adam Carter]

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It doesn't look like just vim - it looks like exiftool, graphite2,

> cups-filters, gvim, and imagemagick all are blocking.
>
> I'd guess that these packages need a version bump or you need to unmask
> one of the newer builds (most likely they haven't been stabilized yet.)
>

Agree - my amd64 system upgraded perl to 5.22 on Friday, so re-sync, and
try again. Also to help resolve upgrade issues i firstly add --deep to
emerge's switches and if that doesnt help, bump up --backtrack=

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge conflict

[Gregory Woodbury]

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I went through the list of conflicts and made a temporary @set of packages
for emerge to re-install. Worked like a charm. A number of the conflicts
are things that should be in a "preserved libraries" type of list, they are
actually quite able to rebuild with the new perl version.

I have, however, had to back off newest versions of sddm and chromium
(browser) due to some performance failures:  /etc/portage/package.keywords
is your friend!

On Sat, Sep 17, 2016 at 9:55 PM, Adam Carter <adamcarter3@gmail.com> wrote:

> It doesn't look like just vim - it looks like exiftool, graphite2,
>
>> cups-filters, gvim, and imagemagick all are blocking.
>>
>> I'd guess that these packages need a version bump or you need to unmask
>> one of the newer builds (most likely they haven't been stabilized yet.)
>>
>
> Agree - my amd64 system upgraded perl to 5.22 on Friday, so re-sync, and
> try again. Also to help resolve upgrade issues i firstly add --deep to
> emerge's switches and if that doesnt help, bump up --backtrack=
>
>



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[gentoo-user] Re: emerge conflict

[Kai Krakow]

Am Sat, 17 Sep 2016 19:12:40 -0400
schrieb Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net>:

> Starting my regular Sat system update, 'eix-sync' told me
> (equivalent) :
> 
> root:524 ~> eix ^perl$
> [U] dev-lang/perl
>  Available versions:  5.20.2(0/5.20) ~5.20.2-r1(0/5.20)
> ~5.22.0(0/5.22) ~5.22.1(0/5.22) 5.22.2(0/5.22) ~5.24.0(0/5.24)
> ~5.24.0-r1(0/5.24) {berkdb debug doc gdbm ithreads} Installed
> versions:  5.20.2([2015-10-04 11:34:10])(gdbm -berkdb -debug -doc
> -ithreads)
> 
> So I tried 'emerge -pv perl' & was told the current version of (G)Vim
> required the earlier installed version of Perl.
> After updating to the latest testing version of (G)Vim, I tried
> again :
> 
> root:522 ~> emerge -pv perl
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R    ] dev-lang/perl-5.20.2:0/5.20::gentoo  USE="-berkdb
> -debug -doc gdbm -ithreads" 0 KiB
> 
> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 KiB
> 
> WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a
> dependency conflict:
[...]

Try running "emerge -C $(qlist -IC virtual/perl-) first, then run a
deep update. If that fails, add vim and other packages to the list:

# emerge -1Dpuv perl
# emerge -1Dpuv perl vim ...

Also check your world file if it accidentally includes perl
dependencies. If deps need to be removed by emerge during an updates,
it will only do it if it is absent in the world file. That is, remove
"virtual/perl-*" and "perl-core/*" from the world file unless you added
them on purpose.

-- 
Regards,
Kai

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[gentoo-user] Re: emerge conflict

[Kai Krakow]

Am Sat, 17 Sep 2016 19:12:40 -0400
schrieb Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net>:

> Starting my regular Sat system update, 'eix-sync' told me
> (equivalent) :
> 
> root:524 ~> eix ^perl$
> [U] dev-lang/perl
>  Available versions:  5.20.2(0/5.20) ~5.20.2-r1(0/5.20)
> ~5.22.0(0/5.22) ~5.22.1(0/5.22) 5.22.2(0/5.22) ~5.24.0(0/5.24)
> ~5.24.0-r1(0/5.24) {berkdb debug doc gdbm ithreads} Installed
> versions:  5.20.2([2015-10-04 11:34:10])(gdbm -berkdb -debug -doc
> -ithreads)
> 
> So I tried 'emerge -pv perl' & was told the current version of (G)Vim
> required the earlier installed version of Perl.
> After updating to the latest testing version of (G)Vim, I tried
> again :
> 
> root:522 ~> emerge -pv perl
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R    ] dev-lang/perl-5.20.2:0/5.20::gentoo  USE="-berkdb
> -debug -doc gdbm -ithreads" 0 KiB
> 
> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 KiB
> 
> WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a
> dependency conflict:
[...]

Try running "emerge -C $(qlist -IC virtual/perl-) first, then run a
deep update. If that fails, add vim and other packages to the list:

# emerge -1Dpuv perl
# emerge -1Dpuv perl vim ...

Also check your world file if it accidentally includes perl
dependencies. If deps need to be removed by emerge during an updates,
it will only do it if it is absent in the world file. That is, remove
"virtual/perl-*" and "perl-core/*" from the world file unless you added
them on purpose.

-- 
Regards,
Kai

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge conflict

[Philip Webb]

160918 Kai Krakow wrote:
> Try ... adding vim and other packages to the list:
> # emerge -1Dpuv perl
> # emerge -1Dpuv perl vim ...

I got around the problem by using :

  emerge --backtrack=30 -pvtD perl perl-Archive-Tar perl-Carp perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib perl-CPAN-Meta-Requirements perl-Data-Dumper perl-ExtUtils-CBuilder perl-ExtUtils-Install perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker perl-ExtUtils-Manifest perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS perl-File-Spec perl-Getopt-Long perl-IO perl-Locale-Maketext perl-Perl-OSType perl-Scalar-List-Utils perl-Test-Harness perl-Text-ParseWords

It wants to remerge Exiftool Imagemagick Cups-filters Graphite2
& also some further Perl pkgs & it wants to downgrade (G)Vim.
That much wb ok, but it also wants to update Poppler & therefore LO
& I don't feel like doing the last at the moment ( 65 min  last time).

What you suggested is fairly standard & I've done it in the past,
but thanks for prompting me.  Thanks to the other respondents too.

Perl can stay where it is till LO 5.2 arrives in Portage :
in fact, isn't it a bit slow appearing ?

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge conflict

[Rich Freeman]

On Sun, Sep 18, 2016 at 7:53 PM, Philip Webb <purslow@ca.inter.net> wrote:
> 160918 Kai Krakow wrote:
>> Try ... adding vim and other packages to the list:
>> # emerge -1Dpuv perl
>> # emerge -1Dpuv perl vim ...
>
> I got around the problem by using :
>
>   emerge --backtrack=30 -pvtD perl

I suspect that you could have gotten away with just emerge
--backtrack=30 -puDvt @world.

Or if you want less than that then just grab all the perl stuff out of
your world, which it looks like you already did.  Without increasing
the backtrack setting I suspect it can't get past the blockers.

-- 
Rich

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge conflict

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 19:53:10 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:

> I got around the problem by using :
> 
>   emerge --backtrack=30 -pvtD perl perl-Archive-Tar perl-Carp
> perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib perl-CPAN-Meta-Requirements perl-Data-Dumper
> perl-ExtUtils-CBuilder perl-ExtUtils-Install perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker
> perl-ExtUtils-Manifest perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS perl-File-Spec
> perl-Getopt-Long perl-IO perl-Locale-Maketext perl-Perl-OSType
> perl-Scalar-List-Utils perl-Test-Harness perl-Text-ParseWords

I'm surprised you needed to jump through such hoops, I updated 2 stable
systems to perl 5.22 last week and emerge @world took care of all
blockers, although I did need to run perl-cleaner afterwards.

> It wants to remerge Exiftool Imagemagick Cups-filters Graphite2
> & also some further Perl pkgs & it wants to downgrade (G)Vim.
> That much wb ok, but it also wants to update Poppler & therefore LO
> & I don't feel like doing the last at the moment ( 65 min  last time).
> 
> What you suggested is fairly standard & I've done it in the past,
> but thanks for prompting me.  Thanks to the other respondents too.
> 
> Perl can stay where it is till LO 5.2 arrives in Portage :
> in fact, isn't it a bit slow appearing ?

5.2.1.2 has been in testing for a couple of days, but it appears that
5.1.4.2 is the only ebuild in stable, so that may be the reason for your
downgrade.


-- 
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You know it's cold when you spot a lawyer with his hands in his own
pockets.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge conflict

[Bill Kenworthy]

On 19/09/16 15:28, Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 19:53:10 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
> 
>> I got around the problem by using :
>>
>>   emerge --backtrack=30 -pvtD perl perl-Archive-Tar perl-Carp
>> perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib perl-CPAN-Meta-Requirements perl-Data-Dumper
>> perl-ExtUtils-CBuilder perl-ExtUtils-Install perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker
>> perl-ExtUtils-Manifest perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS perl-File-Spec
>> perl-Getopt-Long perl-IO perl-Locale-Maketext perl-Perl-OSType
>> perl-Scalar-List-Utils perl-Test-Harness perl-Text-ParseWords
> 
> I'm surprised you needed to jump through such hoops, I updated 2 stable
> systems to perl 5.22 last week and emerge @world took care of all
> blockers, although I did need to run perl-cleaner afterwards.
> 
>> It wants to remerge Exiftool Imagemagick Cups-filters Graphite2
>> & also some further Perl pkgs & it wants to downgrade (G)Vim.
>> That much wb ok, but it also wants to update Poppler & therefore LO
>> & I don't feel like doing the last at the moment ( 65 min  last time).
>>
>> What you suggested is fairly standard & I've done it in the past,
>> but thanks for prompting me.  Thanks to the other respondents too.
>>
>> Perl can stay where it is till LO 5.2 arrives in Portage :
>> in fact, isn't it a bit slow appearing ?
> 
> 5.2.1.2 has been in testing for a couple of days, but it appears that
> 5.1.4.2 is the only ebuild in stable, so that may be the reason for your
> downgrade.
> 
> 

I had only one machine fail - perl itself had to be brute forced with
--nodeps, perl-cleaner fixed the rest after I fixed some g-cpan failures
(wrong case - been around for a long while) - but for that perl-cleaner
would have picked it all up.

BillK

Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge conflict

[Philip Webb]

160919 Neil Bothwick wrote:
> On Sun, 18 Sep 2016 19:53:10 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
>> I got around the problem by using :
>>   emerge --backtrack=30 -pvtD perl perl-Archive-Tar perl-Carp
>> perl-Compress-Raw-Zlib perl-CPAN-Meta-Requirements perl-Data-Dumper
>> perl-ExtUtils-CBuilder perl-ExtUtils-Install perl-ExtUtils-MakeMaker
>> perl-ExtUtils-Manifest perl-ExtUtils-ParseXS perl-File-Spec
>> perl-Getopt-Long perl-IO perl-Locale-Maketext perl-Perl-OSType
>> perl-Scalar-List-Utils perl-Test-Harness perl-Text-ParseWords
> I'm surprised you needed to jump through such hoops.
> I updated 2 stable systems to perl 5.22 last week
> and emerge @world took care of all blockers,
> although I did need to run perl-cleaner afterwards.

I never run 'emerge world' without '-p' :
it's the lazy way to manage a Gentoo system & asks for trouble.

>> Perl can stay where it is till LO 5.2 arrives in Portage :
>> in fact, isn't it a bit slow appearing ?
> 5.2.1.2 has been in testing for a couple of days,
> but it appears that 5.1.4.2 is the only ebuild in stable,
> so that may be the reason for your downgrade.

Actually, it wb an upgrade from 5.1.2.2 .

Anyway, the problem is resolved & I can decide when/how to proceed.

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge conflict

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 13:01:39 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:

> > I'm surprised you needed to jump through such hoops.
> > I updated 2 stable systems to perl 5.22 last week
> > and emerge @world took care of all blockers,
> > although I did need to run perl-cleaner afterwards.  
> 
> I never run 'emerge world' without '-p' :
> it's the lazy way to manage a Gentoo system & asks for trouble.

What makes you think I didn't use -p? I have a cron job that runs emerge
-pXXX @world after syncing and mails me the output, and I always use -a
when running emerge in a shell.

The point is that, whether I used -p, -a or neither, portage handled it
all for me.


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[gentoo-user] Re: emerge conflict

[Kai Krakow]

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Am Mon, 19 Sep 2016 21:17:36 +0100
schrieb Neil Bothwick <neil@digimed.co.uk>:

> On Mon, 19 Sep 2016 13:01:39 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:
> 
> > > I'm surprised you needed to jump through such hoops.
> > > I updated 2 stable systems to perl 5.22 last week
> > > and emerge @world took care of all blockers,
> > > although I did need to run perl-cleaner afterwards.    
> > 
> > I never run 'emerge world' without '-p' :
> > it's the lazy way to manage a Gentoo system & asks for trouble.  
> 
> What makes you think I didn't use -p? I have a cron job that runs
> emerge -pXXX @world after syncing and mails me the output, and I
> always use -a when running emerge in a shell.
> 
> The point is that, whether I used -p, -a or neither, portage handled
> it all for me.

You could also try porticron... ;-)

-- 
Regards,
Kai

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Re: [gentoo-user] Re: emerge conflict

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Tue, 20 Sep 2016 08:41:56 +0200, Kai Krakow wrote:

> > What makes you think I didn't use -p? I have a cron job that runs
> > emerge -pXXX @world after syncing and mails me the output, and I
> > always use -a when running emerge in a shell.
> 
> You could also try porticron... ;-)

I could but I've been running this script on several machines for many
years and it does just what I want and has evolved along with portage. I
may take a look at porticron to see if there's anything else I want but
didn't know it ;-)


-- 
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Physics is like sex: sure, it may give some practical results, but
  that's not why we do it.                            Richard Feynman

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Re: [gentoo-user] emerge conflict

[Neil Bothwick]

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On Sat, 17 Sep 2016 19:12:40 -0400, Philip Webb wrote:

> root:522 ~> emerge -pv perl
> 
> These are the packages that would be merged, in order:
> 
> Calculating dependencies... done!
> [ebuild   R    ] dev-lang/perl-5.20.2:0/5.20::gentoo  USE="-berkdb
> -debug -doc gdbm -ithreads" 0 KiB
> 
> Total: 1 package (1 reinstall), Size of downloads: 0 KiB
> 
> WARNING: One or more updates/rebuilds have been skipped due to a
> dependency conflict:
> 
> dev-lang/perl:0

Is this because you are trying to emerge perl in isolation? This result
is not unexpected as you have other packages built against the older
version and you have not told portage to deal with that.

What happens if you do emerge -uaD @world?


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